smc 28mm /2.8 -k -m -a compare..

006 · 02-08-2011, 06:05 AM

hi, can anybody compare the lenses? maybe some of You owned two or even three versions... I want to buy smc 28mm and I'd like to know if there are significant differences in IQ mostly resolution/aberration/contrast/colours between the models -k -m and -a. yes, I've read the review section, but it's not the same that comparsion..

thank You

aurele · 02-08-2011, 06:34 AM

I have the Takumar A version, so a lense without SMC, and it's a good lense, but because it doesn't have SMC it produce some CA often ...

**Deimos** · 02-08-2011, 07:15 AM

The A is better optics than the M, there is an M version II which has the same optics as the A but not A setting for aperture, it is a nice lens I have the VII.

Not sure about the K, likely as good as the A

eddie1960 · 02-08-2011, 07:24 AM

I have the M 3.5, it has excellent iq though a little slower than the 2.8, it is considered the sharper of the 2 lenses though

some samples in my Single in January album
Paddy shot the 28 2.8 in January for comparisons sake (search single in january you'll get both albums coming up

006 · 02-08-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by aurele

I have the Takumar A version, so a lense without SMC, and it's a good lense, but because it doesn't have SMC it produce some CA often ...

that's why smc is a must

006 · 02-08-2011, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Deimos

The A is better optics than the M, there is an M version II which has the same optics as the A but not A setting for aperture, it is a nice lens I have the VII.

Not sure about the K, likely as good as the A

interesting.. how can I tell the older M version from the newer one?

006 · 02-08-2011, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

I have the M 3.5, it has excellent iq though a little slower than the 2.8, it is considered the sharper of the 2 lenses though

some samples in my Single in January album
Paddy shot the 28 2.8 in January for comparisons sake (search single in january you'll get both albums coming up

some night shots You made with lens are realy beautiful. I love when 3 elements = city/night and winter come together

dont You lack shorter d.o.f. in some cases for it's a bit slower ?

**gofour3** · 02-08-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by 006

hi, can anybody compare the lenses? maybe some of You owned two or even three versions... I want to buy smc 28mm and I'd like to know if there are significant differences in IQ mostly resolution/aberration/contrast/colours between the models -k -m and -a. yes, I've read the review section, but it's not the same that comparsion..

thank You

There is no K28/2.8 but a K28/3.5. The K28/3.5 would be my choice over the A/M28/2.8 or the M28/3.5. Check the lens review section.

Phil.

paperbag846 · 02-08-2011, 03:15 PM

K 3.5 is the sharpest.

A 2.8 is better than the M 2.8 (often, unless you have the rare M 2.8 v. II).

In general, I would suggest the A 2.8 because the auto aperture is a great feature, and the 28mm 2.8 is pretty sharp already.

eddie1960 · 02-08-2011, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by 006

some night shots You made with lens are realy beautiful. I love when 3 elements = city/night and winter come together

dont You lack shorter d.o.f. in some cases for it's a bit slower ?

I have other lenses for DOF like the several 50's. The small amount for DOF gain from 3.5 to 2.8 would be negligible in any case

Now if it was the f2.0 28 k that's a different story

Thanks for the compliment on the shots. At this point I'd rather city/night and summer came together for a while

VaSA · 02-08-2011, 05:38 PM

I've used: K28mm f3.5, M28mm f2.8 and f3.5, A28mm f2.8.

K is the best, followed by M 3.5, followed by A, followed by M f2.8. I'd say IQ wise the A 2.8 and M 2.8 are close but obviously the A gives you the convenience of auto aperture. The A needs to be used with a hood, it flares somewhat bad and sometimes reproduces crappy colors, but if you enjoy taking "atmospheric" photos, A is really good for that!!!

John Poirier · 02-09-2011, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by VaSA

I've used: K28mm f3.5, M28mm f2.8 and f3.5, A28mm f2.8.

K is the best, followed by M 3.5, followed by A, followed by M f2.8. I'd say IQ wise the A 2.8 and M 2.8 are close but obviously the A gives you the convenience of auto aperture. The A needs to be used with a hood, it flares somewhat bad and sometimes reproduces crappy colors, but if you enjoy taking "atmospheric" photos, A is really good for that!!!

I agree that the K 3.5 is best.

Another option is the SMC Takumar 28/3.5. It's the same formula as the K lens but is much easier to find and cheaper. It is also quite easy to find the excellent OEM metal hood for that lens.

Nick Siebers · 02-09-2011, 07:37 PM

I had an SMC Tak 28/3.5 and found I liked the bokeh of my M 28/3.5 better. Sharpness seemed similar. The sigma mini-wide II (28mm, f/2.8, A ocntacts, 1:4.5 macro) is also a nice choice.

006 · 02-13-2011, 09:58 AM

I bought smc-a 28 2.8 and I just can't wait 4 delivery. it comes together with smc-k 50 1,4 both in mint condition so I'm realy excited. Thank You People 4 all Your posts, I'll submit some test photz for others to compare

paperbag846 · 02-13-2011, 10:49 AM

I hope you are happy.

Remember, the 28mm is hard to properly focus, so make sure your images are actually focused properly before you worry that the lens is soft... if it's a good copy it's damn sharp.

Also, it really needs a hood.

02-08-2011, 06:05 AM	#1
006 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 38	smc 28mm /2.8 -k -m -a compare.. hi, can anybody compare the lenses? maybe some of You owned two or even three versions... I want to buy smc 28mm and I'd like to know if there are significant differences in IQ mostly resolution/aberration/contrast/colours between the models -k -m and -a. yes, I've read the review section, but it's not the same that comparsion.. thank You

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aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	I have the Takumar A version, so a lense without SMC, and it's a good lense, but because it doesn't have SMC it produce some CA often ...

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Deimos Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kingdom of Wonder Posts: 1,777	The A is better optics than the M, there is an M version II which has the same optics as the A but not A setting for aperture, it is a nice lens I have the VII. Not sure about the K, likely as good as the A

02-08-2011, 07:24 AM	#4
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	I have the M 3.5, it has excellent iq though a little slower than the 2.8, it is considered the sharper of the 2 lenses though some samples in my Single in January album Paddy shot the 28 2.8 in January for comparisons sake (search single in january you'll get both albums coming up

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006 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 38 Original Poster	Originally posted by aurele I have the Takumar A version, so a lense without SMC, and it's a good lense, but because it doesn't have SMC it produce some CA often ... that's why smc is a must

02-08-2011, 02:52 PM	#6
006 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 38 Original Poster	Originally posted by Deimos The A is better optics than the M, there is an M version II which has the same optics as the A but not A setting for aperture, it is a nice lens I have the VII. Not sure about the K, likely as good as the A interesting.. how can I tell the older M version from the newer one?

02-08-2011, 02:58 PM	#7
006 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 38 Original Poster	Originally posted by eddie1960 I have the M 3.5, it has excellent iq though a little slower than the 2.8, it is considered the sharper of the 2 lenses though some samples in my Single in January album Paddy shot the 28 2.8 in January for comparisons sake (search single in january you'll get both albums coming up some night shots You made with lens are realy beautiful. I love when 3 elements = city/night and winter come together dont You lack shorter d.o.f. in some cases for it's a bit slower ?

02-08-2011, 03:06 PM	#8
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,088	Originally posted by 006 hi, can anybody compare the lenses? maybe some of You owned two or even three versions... I want to buy smc 28mm and I'd like to know if there are significant differences in IQ mostly resolution/aberration/contrast/colours between the models -k -m and -a. yes, I've read the review section, but it's not the same that comparsion.. thank You There is no K28/2.8 but a K28/3.5. The K28/3.5 would be my choice over the A/M28/2.8 or the M28/3.5. Check the lens review section. Phil.

02-08-2011, 03:15 PM	#9
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	K 3.5 is the sharpest. A 2.8 is better than the M 2.8 (often, unless you have the rare M 2.8 v. II). In general, I would suggest the A 2.8 because the auto aperture is a great feature, and the 28mm 2.8 is pretty sharp already.

02-08-2011, 04:42 PM	#10
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by 006 some night shots You made with lens are realy beautiful. I love when 3 elements = city/night and winter come together dont You lack shorter d.o.f. in some cases for it's a bit slower ? I have other lenses for DOF like the several 50's. The small amount for DOF gain from 3.5 to 2.8 would be negligible in any case Now if it was the f2.0 28 k that's a different story Thanks for the compliment on the shots. At this point I'd rather city/night and summer came together for a while

02-08-2011, 05:38 PM	#11
VaSA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 173	I've used: K28mm f3.5, M28mm f2.8 and f3.5, A28mm f2.8. K is the best, followed by M 3.5, followed by A, followed by M f2.8. I'd say IQ wise the A 2.8 and M 2.8 are close but obviously the A gives you the convenience of auto aperture. The A needs to be used with a hood, it flares somewhat bad and sometimes reproduces crappy colors, but if you enjoy taking "atmospheric" photos, A is really good for that!!!

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02-09-2011, 01:14 PM	#12
John Poirier Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gabriola Island Posts: 619	Originally posted by VaSA I've used: K28mm f3.5, M28mm f2.8 and f3.5, A28mm f2.8. K is the best, followed by M 3.5, followed by A, followed by M f2.8. I'd say IQ wise the A 2.8 and M 2.8 are close but obviously the A gives you the convenience of auto aperture. The A needs to be used with a hood, it flares somewhat bad and sometimes reproduces crappy colors, but if you enjoy taking "atmospheric" photos, A is really good for that!!! I agree that the K 3.5 is best. Another option is the SMC Takumar 28/3.5. It's the same formula as the K lens but is much easier to find and cheaper. It is also quite easy to find the excellent OEM metal hood for that lens.

02-09-2011, 07:37 PM	#13
Nick Siebers Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,165	I had an SMC Tak 28/3.5 and found I liked the bokeh of my M 28/3.5 better. Sharpness seemed similar. The sigma mini-wide II (28mm, f/2.8, A ocntacts, 1:4.5 macro) is also a nice choice.

02-13-2011, 09:58 AM	#14
006 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 38 Original Poster	I bought smc-a 28 2.8 and I just can't wait 4 delivery. it comes together with smc-k 50 1,4 both in mint condition so I'm realy excited. Thank You People 4 all Your posts, I'll submit some test photz for others to compare

02-13-2011, 10:49 AM	#15
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	I hope you are happy. Remember, the 28mm is hard to properly focus, so make sure your images are actually focused properly before you worry that the lens is soft... if it's a good copy it's damn sharp. Also, it really needs a hood.