Least favorite lens brand

Buschmaster · 12-10-2006, 12:54 AM

May as well continue my last poll about the favorite lens brand with least favorite lens brand...

Same companies, different question!

It will be interesting to see how much the results differ from the other poll. It's possible they go exactly opposite... Though it's very possible they won't.

roentarre · 12-10-2006, 04:05 AM

My god! Someone hated the pentax brand! Must be a some kind humour I had not encountered before ...

This question is too generalised as each brand has good and bad lenses ... And the definition of good and bad are also relative...

A "soft" lens can still serve a different purpose like art craft stuff... (I am struggling here. You get the point.

The person who dislikes the pentax lenses could just go onto any other brands (hopefully not picking the pentax brand for the price - then samsung is the next transition I believe)

HogRider · 12-10-2006, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by roentarre

My god! Someone hated the pentax brand! Must be a some kind humour I had not encountered before ...

Wasn't me - lol

Falcons · 12-11-2006, 06:04 AM

I voted for Phoenix only because I have never heard of them and really have nothing against the other Brands (especially Pentax. But to see the results of the poll I had to vote - so Phoenix it was.

Can someone enlighten me about this Phoenix brand, are they that bad? Do they do lenses for other makes also?

slip · 12-11-2006, 08:34 AM

My least favourate lens are the ones I can't afford

:ugh:

Buschmaster · 12-11-2006, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by Falcons

I voted for Phoenix only because I have never heard of them and really have nothing against the other Brands (especially Pentax. But to see the results of the poll I had to vote - so Phoenix it was.

Can someone enlighten me about this Phoenix brand, are they that bad? Do they do lenses for other makes also?

Here is a list of their lenses

Or at least some of them. Those are the ones for Pentax. There are also some listed for Sony/Minolta. Otherwise, that appears to be it.

Falcons · 12-11-2006, 02:30 PM

Thanks Buschmaster.
One of the lenses on the BH site was for a canon mount (which would make sense), I have just never heard of them before and their lenses are really cheap has anyone ever used the lenses or does the cheap price put you off as you would expect the worst?

Buschmaster · 12-11-2006, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Falcons

I voted for Phoenix only because I have never heard of them and really have nothing against the other Brands (especially Pentax. But to see the results of the poll I had to vote - so Phoenix it was.

Can someone enlighten me about this Phoenix brand, are they that bad? Do they do lenses for other makes also?

Originally posted by Falcons

Thanks Buschmaster.
One of the lenses on the BH site was for a canon mount (which would make sense), I have just never heard of them before and their lenses are really cheap has anyone ever used the lenses or does the cheap price put you off as you would expect the worst?

I looked up a review because I was curious...
It can be seen here.
Seen for sale on B&H here.

From reading this, this particular lens appears to be mostly made from plastic, though parts are metal. So, if you're careful to not drop your lens you should still be okay, but that would contribute to them selling them cheaper. While this may turn you off, the reviewer also said...

"It is in the optical department that the Phoenix 100mm f/3.5 macro lens shines. It is really quite sharp, with excellent center resolution, and pretty good at the edges. Stopped down to f/8 or smaller, there is very little to pick between this lens and more expensive types. It does not match the superb Tamron 180mm f/3.5 macro but it certainly is on a par with the Nikkor 28-105mm f3.5-4.5D IF AF in macro mode, and much better than that lens at the edges. It is possible to count the hairs on an insect's body, though they don't show the hard-edged crispness of the Tamron or a micro-Nikkor."

I may have to give them a try at some point down the road... As long as you are careful not to break it, it sounds like they could make a sharp lens.

HogRider · 12-11-2006, 05:50 PM

I think this is how it goes:

Cosina makes this style of new plastic lenses. Phoenix, Promaster, Vivitar put their label on it. They seem to be identical.

ericc · 12-17-2006, 05:05 AM

Of the brands I've owned (all but the phoenix), the Tamron is easily my least favorite. I have one of those 28-300 superzooms that I bought when I was stupid. Sadly, I still use it occasionally when I can only carry one lens with me.

HogRider · 12-17-2006, 09:18 AM

The 10% who voted for Pentax is what scares me about that poll. Any Canon Trolls in this forum?

**Ebbe S** · 12-22-2006, 11:29 PM

Sorry ... messed up ... didn't read the text properly ... just voted ... for Pentax

When I saw the result I realised that it was the lens I liked the least that I voted for ... not the one that I liked the most ... which I actually voted for.

Might have happend to others too.

Any way to pull back my vote? Mo/Adam? And put it on the Phoenix?

Photo Tramp · 12-30-2006, 03:21 AM

I did tht same thing Adam I guess it was to early and I didn't read it right. My vote should be Pionex.

Good Shooting.
Cheers: David

-=JoN=- · 12-30-2006, 06:44 AM

herbert kepler from pop photo said that this one phoenix lens was a steal. really cheap, and it produced out decent shots.

here's the article

SLR: Make Do Or Splurge? - - PopPhotoJune 2004

i've seen them too in past photo expo's. they dont have much..but they been around...

(i did vote for them tho.. but just because..they are the least known)

**NaClH2O** · 12-30-2006, 07:26 AM

Good one Randy!

Unfortunately for me that means most of them!

NaCl(does that mean that when I win the lotto I'l love all brands?)H2O

View Poll Results: Which lens brand do you like the least?
Pentax	11	14.67%
Phoenix	46	61.33%
Sigma	10	13.33%
Tamron	5	6.67%
Tokina	3	4.00%
Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

12-10-2006, 12:54 AM	#1
Buschmaster Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 806	Least favorite lens brand May as well continue my last poll about the favorite lens brand with least favorite lens brand... Same companies, different question! It will be interesting to see how much the results differ from the other poll. It's possible they go exactly opposite... Though it's very possible they won't.

12-22-2006, 11:29 PM	#12
Ebbe S Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Photos: Gallery Posts: 31	Sorry ... messed up ... didn't read the text properly ... just voted ... for Pentax When I saw the result I realised that it was the lens I liked the least that I voted for ... not the one that I liked the most ... which I actually voted for. Might have happend to others too. Any way to pull back my vote? Mo/Adam? And put it on the Phoenix? Last edited by Ebbe S; 12-23-2006 at 02:01 AM. Reason: Saw an earlier reply from Mo

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12-10-2006, 04:05 AM	#2
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	My god! Someone hated the pentax brand! Must be a some kind humour I had not encountered before ... This question is too generalised as each brand has good and bad lenses ... And the definition of good and bad are also relative... A "soft" lens can still serve a different purpose like art craft stuff... (I am struggling here. You get the point. The person who dislikes the pentax lenses could just go onto any other brands (hopefully not picking the pentax brand for the price - then samsung is the next transition I believe)

12-10-2006, 09:41 AM	#3
HogRider Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 608	Originally posted by roentarre My god! Someone hated the pentax brand! Must be a some kind humour I had not encountered before ... Wasn't me - lol

12-11-2006, 06:04 AM	#4
Falcons Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Perth Photos: Gallery Posts: 669	I voted for Phoenix only because I have never heard of them and really have nothing against the other Brands (especially Pentax. But to see the results of the poll I had to vote - so Phoenix it was. Can someone enlighten me about this Phoenix brand, are they that bad? Do they do lenses for other makes also?

12-11-2006, 08:34 AM	#5
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535	My least favourate lens are the ones I can't afford :ugh:

12-11-2006, 09:43 AM	#6
Buschmaster Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 806 Original Poster	Originally posted by Falcons I voted for Phoenix only because I have never heard of them and really have nothing against the other Brands (especially Pentax. But to see the results of the poll I had to vote - so Phoenix it was. Can someone enlighten me about this Phoenix brand, are they that bad? Do they do lenses for other makes also? Here is a list of their lenses Or at least some of them. Those are the ones for Pentax. There are also some listed for Sony/Minolta. Otherwise, that appears to be it.

12-11-2006, 02:30 PM	#7
Falcons Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Perth Photos: Gallery Posts: 669	Thanks Buschmaster. One of the lenses on the BH site was for a canon mount (which would make sense), I have just never heard of them before and their lenses are really cheap has anyone ever used the lenses or does the cheap price put you off as you would expect the worst?

12-11-2006, 04:55 PM	#8
Buschmaster Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 806 Original Poster	Originally posted by Falcons I voted for Phoenix only because I have never heard of them and really have nothing against the other Brands (especially Pentax. But to see the results of the poll I had to vote - so Phoenix it was. Can someone enlighten me about this Phoenix brand, are they that bad? Do they do lenses for other makes also? Originally posted by Falcons Thanks Buschmaster. One of the lenses on the BH site was for a canon mount (which would make sense), I have just never heard of them before and their lenses are really cheap has anyone ever used the lenses or does the cheap price put you off as you would expect the worst? I looked up a review because I was curious... It can be seen here. Seen for sale on B&H here. From reading this, this particular lens appears to be mostly made from plastic, though parts are metal. So, if you're careful to not drop your lens you should still be okay, but that would contribute to them selling them cheaper. While this may turn you off, the reviewer also said... "It is in the optical department that the Phoenix 100mm f/3.5 macro lens shines. It is really quite sharp, with excellent center resolution, and pretty good at the edges. Stopped down to f/8 or smaller, there is very little to pick between this lens and more expensive types. It does not match the superb Tamron 180mm f/3.5 macro but it certainly is on a par with the Nikkor 28-105mm f3.5-4.5D IF AF in macro mode, and much better than that lens at the edges. It is possible to count the hairs on an insect's body, though they don't show the hard-edged crispness of the Tamron or a micro-Nikkor." I may have to give them a try at some point down the road... As long as you are careful not to break it, it sounds like they could make a sharp lens.

12-11-2006, 05:50 PM	#9
HogRider Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 608	I think this is how it goes: Cosina makes this style of new plastic lenses. Phoenix, Promaster, Vivitar put their label on it. They seem to be identical.

12-17-2006, 05:05 AM	#10
ericc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Oklahoma Posts: 412	Of the brands I've owned (all but the phoenix), the Tamron is easily my least favorite. I have one of those 28-300 superzooms that I bought when I was stupid. Sadly, I still use it occasionally when I can only carry one lens with me.

12-17-2006, 09:18 AM	#11
HogRider Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 608	The 10% who voted for Pentax is what scares me about that poll. Any Canon Trolls in this forum?

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12-30-2006, 03:21 AM	#13
Photo Tramp Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lancaster, PA. Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,041	I did tht same thing Adam I guess it was to early and I didn't read it right. My vote should be Pionex. Good Shooting. Cheers: David

12-30-2006, 06:44 AM	#14
-=JoN=- Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 999	herbert kepler from pop photo said that this one phoenix lens was a steal. really cheap, and it produced out decent shots. here's the article SLR: Make Do Or Splurge? - - PopPhotoJune 2004 i've seen them too in past photo expo's. they dont have much..but they been around... (i did vote for them tho.. but just because..they are the least known)

12-30-2006, 07:26 AM	#15
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	Good one Randy! Unfortunately for me that means most of them! NaCl(does that mean that when I win the lotto I'l love all brands?)H2O