Tom, I found another Zeiss on Ebay as a buy it now at 899 and Klaus reviewed it on a Nikon. He seems to think it's about as good as you could buy and it beats the Nikon equivalent 1.4 That's the route I'm going. As nice as this lens is I'm not going to engage in the feeding frenzy (nor do I have the money) that these seem to create.
Here's Klaus's verdict from the following review.
Zeiss Planar ZF T* 85mm f/1.4 - Photozone Review / Test Report
Zeiss ZF lenses are controversial beings because they lack auto-focus and an electronically controlled aperture. However, they also tend to represent a benchmark in their respective class and the same goes for the Zeiss Planar ZF T* 85mm f/1.4. The lens is capable to produce bitingly sharp results when stopped down a little. The color rendition is very Zeiss-like - very saturated and neutral. Vignetting is usually no issue and distortions are absent. Judging the lens bokeh (out-of-focus blur) is a little difficult because similar to wine it is simply matter of taste - generally I found the out-of-focus rendering buttery and pleasing (except with close-ups). Nonetheless the Zeiss also has also a few weaknesses. It shows a somewhat "dreamy" contrast characteristic at f/1.4. Whether this is a bug or a feature is a matter of application - portrait photographers will like it whereas still-life photographers will probably not. Typical for ultra-large aperture lenses there´s also some degree of purple fringing and longitudinal chromatic aberrations at large aperture settings. Due to the large front element the T* 85mm f/1.4 isn´t quite as resistant against flare as its (Zeiss) cousins but certainly not worse than comparable lenses. The build quality is also exceptionally high and a reminiscence to times when plastics were not the dominant form of mechanical design. The price tag of the Zeiss comes almost as a surprise - at 1200 €/US$ it costs about the same like the (optically slightly inferior) Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.4D. If you can live with its manual focusing approach you don´t need to go any further - highly recommended!
From another tech review he Zeiss 85 and 50mm are measured as a good as it gets. See below:
Carl Zeiss ZF - Lens test conclusion
The new lenses set a new benchmark record with up to 320 pairs of lines per mm. The test was performed with a Nikon F6 camera mounted on a professional heavy stand. The Kodak Eastman test table set-up was used in combination with Kodak Imagelink HQ film. The test with the Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/85mm ZF resulted into 250 pairs of lines per mm (lp/mm) with an aperture of f/5.6 and even lower (f/2), the Planar T* 1.4/50mm ZF even reach 320 lp/mm with an aperture of f/5.6 to f/2, and 250 lp/mm with f/2.
Carl Zeiss ZF price update | Digital Camera Review
So for my money this is what I'm going to do. Love the Pentax 85 but not at the prices they are going for now.