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03-14-2011, 09:05 PM   #1
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Choice of lens for shooting large group: DA 15mm vs DA 16-45mm

I asked this question in the giant thread about the DA 15mm but I'm afraid it will be overlooked with all those amazing pictures in there. I have a shoot with a group of 25-30 sorority girls in a few weeks. I need to rent a wide angle lens for that. I'm looking between the 15mm and the DA 16-45mm. Quality and low distortion are more important than flexibility. So how does both lens fare with group shot? Any example of shots? I only have money to rent one.

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I would go with the 16-45 and I wouldn't shoot at 16mm. Shoot more like 24 mm and your distortion will be negligible. If you can back up just a little bit, it should not be a problem.
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I'd go with a zoom in this situation. Unless you have a range of primes you will have a harder time controlling the background to your liking. In addition - with wider angles of view you have to be more careful about unflattering perspective distortion.

If you're renting why stop at the 16-45? Why not go for the DA* 16-50?

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zoom zoom zoom

for this sort of thing the DA 15 makes no sense.

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DA12-24.

post those pics here once you're done with them.
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I would go with the 16-45 and I wouldn't shoot at 16mm. Shoot more like 24 mm and your distortion will be negligible. If you can back up just a little bit, it should not be a problem.
Yeah I'm leaning on getting the DA 16-45mm or the DA* 16-50mm. I had the DA* before and liked using it but it's a bit more expensive to rent.

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I'd go with a zoom in this situation. Unless you have a range of primes you will have a harder time controlling the background to your liking. In addition - with wider angles of view you have to be more careful about unflattering perspective distortion.

If you're renting why stop at the 16-45? Why not go for the DA* 16-50?
Thanks for the advice mate. I thought I would have been able to get away with using just the 15mm and the 35mm. I'm a prime shooter. The DA* 16-50 is a bit more expensive to rent and frankly I think the result of the DA16-45 is comparable to the DA*.

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zoom zoom zoom

for this sort of thing the DA 15 makes no sense.
Well I needed a valuable reason to get my hands on the DA 15 for a bit of joy. I guess this is not it.

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DA12-24.

post those pics here once you're done with them.
Hmmm! From online reviews, I heard this lens is a purple fringe monster. The focal length is perfect for this tho.
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Hmmm! From online reviews, I heard this lens is a purple fringe monster. The focal length is perfect for this tho.
nope, it's not a pf monster. you should not worry about that. anyway, I have used this lens for such purpose and you would appreciate the flexibility of shooting it from 12 to 24 from large group to smaller close-up groups.
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nope, it's not a pf monster. you should not worry about that. anyway, I have used this lens for such purpose and you would appreciate the flexibility of shooting it from 12 to 24 from large group to smaller close-up groups.
OK! I want to take your advice but I need some convincing. One nice group shot with the lens will do it.

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OK! I want to take your advice but I need some convincing. One nice group shot with the lens will do it.
very well. shot zoom at 18mm for close-up group. I was approximately around 6 feet back when I took this shot. I could had taken it up much closer and gone wider at 12mm, but I like the close-up perspective at 18mm. if the crowd was much larger than this with a few more people, I would shot this at 12mm at the same shooting distance.

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I am new to this and this may be a stupid question. I also have a group photo to do in April, I do not have many lens and do not know of a place near by to rent lenses. So would my 16-55 work for the group shot?
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I am new to this and this may be a stupid question. I also have a group photo to do in April, I do not have many lens and do not know of a place near by to rent lenses. So would my 16-55 work for the group shot?
it depends on the size of the group and the space. if the number of people is somewhat like the photo shown above and with the same shooting space, then a 16mm would do. however, if you fall short or is somehow limited with shooting space, you will need a wider lens. take note, size of the group and space. bigger group with small space, get something wide.
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QuoteOriginally posted by afroed Quote
Thanks for the advice mate. I thought I would have been able to get away with using just the 15mm and the 35mm. I'm a prime shooter. The DA* 16-50 is a bit more expensive to rent and frankly I think the result of the DA16-45 is comparable to the DA*.
Aah! I suppose I should have looked at your list of gear or something... If you do decide to pack the 15 and 35 please share how it goes, I've got a 35 as my standard prime and was looking to fill out the wide end with a 15.

As for the price difference in rentals; where are you renting from? The online rentals I've seen vary maybe $10 between all of the lenses!
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Aah! I suppose I should have looked at your list of gear or something... If you do decide to pack the 15 and 35 please share how it goes, I've got a 35 as my standard prime and was looking to fill out the wide end with a 15.

As for the price difference in rentals; where are you renting from? The online rentals I've seen vary maybe $10 between all of the lenses!
Well the group decided my service is too expensive for them since they haven't gotten back to me. I was dealing with a bunch of cheap bastards . I will still find a way to get the DA15mm but I'm letting go the 35mm for the FA 43mm.

I think it's totally doable with a combo of the 15mm and the 35mm or better yet the 15mm and the FA 31mm. My goal is to end up with this combo: DA15, FA31, FA43, FA77, a long zoom, and 2 bodies. Then my world would be complete.

I was about to rent from cameralensrental.
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DA12-24.

post those pics here once you're done with them.
If you're renting something, I would suggest the same. The stuff I've seen from this lens is outstanding and if you need wider because of the location, you're covered.
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