A lightweight prime kit, by Pentax.

dgaies · 04-24-2011, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

And the flip side of not having to change lenses is that the full weight is on the camera all the time.

And the flip side of that is not having the extra weight in your bag

This could go on forever!

Again, I'm not really advocating that one way is outright better than the other. As Ash pointed out above, there are times when the 28-75 makes sense (convenience/versatility) and there are times when the limiteds make more sense (speed/superior IQ).

I have the Tamron 28-75 and really like it, but I also have all 3 FA limited lenses as well as 3 DA limited lenses, so it's not as if I'm biased one way or another

GeneV · 04-24-2011, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

And the flip side of that is not having the extra weight in your bag

This could go on forever!

It is a matter of personal preference, but for me there is no comparison between weight around the neck and weight in a bag. I also don't like longer lenses scaring street subjects, but again it may not be a problem for you. This was a request for a lightweight Prime kit. We could go on for some time with zooms and will probably have many opportunities to do so on other threads.

dgaies · 04-24-2011, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

It is a matter of personal preference, but for me there is no comparison between weight around the neck and weight in a bag. I also don't like longer lenses scaring street subjects, but again it may not be a problem for you. This was a request for a lightweight Prime kit. We could go on for some time with zooms and will probably have many opportunities to do so on other threads.

I actually agree with you regarding the greater importance of the weight around your neck; I was just being a smart-ass earlier about the extra weight in the bag

I had the DA*50-135 out this afternoon and I can assure you that it was a lot less comfortable hanging from my neck that any of my (much) smaller limited primes

MSD · 04-25-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

I had the DA*50-135 out this afternoon and I can assure you that it was a lot less comfortable hanging from my neck that any of my (much) smaller limited primes

This is another advantage of the little primes- so much easier around the neck, IMO.

Eruditass · 04-28-2011, 09:29 AM

What's everyone's solution for carrying around a body and 1 pancake? I was thinking a small nylon bag or sock but a lowepro lens bag looked interesting too with better padding and a belt loop, albeit bigger:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-camera-field-accessories/96715-k-x...small-bag.html

I wanted something that I would take literally everywhere.

nah · 04-28-2011, 09:47 AM

I just got a 35mm ltd and it's an awesome lens.

I love the fact that it's a macro lens and it's wide enough to shoot pretty much anything. It's also sharp!

spicy cho · 04-28-2011, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Eruditass

What's everyone's solution for carrying around a body and 1 pancake? I was thinking a small nylon bag or sock but a lowepro lens bag looked interesting too with better padding and a belt loop, albeit bigger:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-camera-field-accessories/96715-k-x...small-bag.html

I wanted something that I would take literally everywhere.

Yup, the 1W is a great case for that combo. I just have the shoulder strap hanging out out the closed bag and have it slung around my shoulder most of the time when I use that combo. Using the belt loop is a bit awkward.

Eruditass · 04-28-2011, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by spicy cho

Yup, the 1W is a great case for that combo. I just have the shoulder strap hanging out out the closed bag and have it slung around my shoulder most of the time when I use that combo. Using the belt loop is a bit awkward.

How does it fare with the almost pancakes? the 15mm and 35mm limiteds or 70mm with a hood? Or a K-5/K-7 or even K10D/K20D?

spicy cho · 04-28-2011, 11:18 AM

Don't think any of those would fit. I can maybe squeeze my kx with a DA 21 in if the hood isn't attached, if that gives you an idea. I can see when I get home.

spicy cho · 04-28-2011, 08:30 PM

You can definitely squeeze in a KX + DA 21 minus hood, it will be a little tight with a filter plus lens cap but I think it would fit. Anything longer is a no go for the 1W.

Frank B · 04-28-2011, 09:30 PM

It's a little bigger, but for carrying around a K-7 with the DA15, DA21, DA40 and DA70, a Domke F-5XB works great. There is room for the DA35 Macro if I really want to push it, but usually I just carry 4. In a neutral canvas color (mine is sand) it doesn't look like a camera bag. I took off all the velcro too.

spicy cho · 04-28-2011, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Frank B

It's a little bigger, but for carrying around a K-7 with the DA15, DA21, DA40 and DA70, a Domke F-5XB works great. There is room for the DA35 Macro if I really want to push it, but usually I just carry 4. In a neutral canvas color (mine is sand) it doesn't look like a camera bag. I took off all the velcro too.

Yup, that's my bag as well, in olive green. Fits all the stuff in my sig plus an extra set of eneloops sitting in the charger.

Eruditass · 04-28-2011, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by spicy cho

You can definitely squeeze in a KX + DA 21 minus hood, it will be a little tight with a filter plus lens cap but I think it would fit. Anything longer is a no go for the 1W.

Cool, thanks for the pic. So it's pushing it with the hood depth wise, what about height and length?

Also how does it feel on the belt? or how else do you carry it? Does you find you take your camera more places with it?

spicy cho · 04-28-2011, 10:43 PM

Well, that's pushing it without the hood, for the 21 at least. It wouldn't be much of a squeeze to fit with a lens cap, but anything longer won't work. I don't know if a larger body would fit the pack, I only own the kx.

The pack will definitely stick out from your belt, I find it kind of annoying to carry that way. What I tend to do is zip up the camera but leave the shoulder strap hanging out of it, so I can have it slung over one shoulder as I walk about. But then when the camera is out you need a place to stuff the pack, so it's not a perfect solution either. I ended up getting the F5XB because of this, no need to worry about having to make sure the 40 is mounted to put it back in the pack. But if you are just carrying around a kx w/40 and another lens or two, you could just stuff the other ones in a fanny pack and head off.

I've taken out the camera quite a bit with the 1W the past few months and it's definitely nice to just grab and go. It's as close to a point and shoot as a dslr can get I think. Now that I have more lenses I needed another solution, but I could see myself using it still.

Eruditass · 04-28-2011, 11:07 PM

Cool, thanks for the info. I have other a larger sling/backpack and a medium-ish bag, but want something super small for just the K-x (or K-5 potentially) and one pancake for taking absolutely everywhere, ideally on my belt and along the belt (not across it, and i'd probably remove the neck strap). Bonus points if I can manage to fit in the 15mm or 35mm macro, but i realize those desires are at odds with each other.

Perhaps I can look into this one:
Lowepro - Lens Case 11 x 14cm
or the nikon leather one in the other thread.

04-28-2011, 10:44 AM	#98
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by spicy cho Yup, the 1W is a great case for that combo. I just have the shoulder strap hanging out out the closed bag and have it slung around my shoulder most of the time when I use that combo. Using the belt loop is a bit awkward. How does it fare with the almost pancakes? the 15mm and 35mm limiteds or 70mm with a hood? Or a K-5/K-7 or even K10D/K20D? Last edited by Eruditass; 04-28-2011 at 11:07 AM.

04-28-2011, 11:07 PM	#105
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Cool, thanks for the info. I have other a larger sling/backpack and a medium-ish bag, but want something super small for just the K-x (or K-5 potentially) and one pancake for taking absolutely everywhere, ideally on my belt and along the belt (not across it, and i'd probably remove the neck strap). Bonus points if I can manage to fit in the 15mm or 35mm macro, but i realize those desires are at odds with each other. Perhaps I can look into this one: Lowepro - Lens Case 11 x 14cm or the nikon leather one in the other thread. Last edited by Eruditass; 04-28-2011 at 11:20 PM.

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04-24-2011, 06:47 PM	#91
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by GeneV And the flip side of not having to change lenses is that the full weight is on the camera all the time. And the flip side of that is not having the extra weight in your bag This could go on forever! Again, I'm not really advocating that one way is outright better than the other. As Ash pointed out above, there are times when the 28-75 makes sense (convenience/versatility) and there are times when the limiteds make more sense (speed/superior IQ). I have the Tamron 28-75 and really like it, but I also have all 3 FA limited lenses as well as 3 DA limited lenses, so it's not as if I'm biased one way or another

04-24-2011, 06:56 PM	#92
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by dgaies And the flip side of that is not having the extra weight in your bag This could go on forever! It is a matter of personal preference, but for me there is no comparison between weight around the neck and weight in a bag. I also don't like longer lenses scaring street subjects, but again it may not be a problem for you. This was a request for a lightweight Prime kit. We could go on for some time with zooms and will probably have many opportunities to do so on other threads.

04-24-2011, 08:01 PM	#93
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by GeneV It is a matter of personal preference, but for me there is no comparison between weight around the neck and weight in a bag. I also don't like longer lenses scaring street subjects, but again it may not be a problem for you. This was a request for a lightweight Prime kit. We could go on for some time with zooms and will probably have many opportunities to do so on other threads. I actually agree with you regarding the greater importance of the weight around your neck; I was just being a smart-ass earlier about the extra weight in the bag I had the DA*50-135 out this afternoon and I can assure you that it was a lot less comfortable hanging from my neck that any of my (much) smaller limited primes

04-25-2011, 03:44 PM	#94
MSD Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 163 Original Poster	Originally posted by dgaies I had the DA*50-135 out this afternoon and I can assure you that it was a lot less comfortable hanging from my neck that any of my (much) smaller limited primes This is another advantage of the little primes- so much easier around the neck, IMO.

04-28-2011, 09:29 AM	#95
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	What's everyone's solution for carrying around a body and 1 pancake? I was thinking a small nylon bag or sock but a lowepro lens bag looked interesting too with better padding and a belt loop, albeit bigger: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-camera-field-accessories/96715-k-x...small-bag.html I wanted something that I would take literally everywhere.

04-28-2011, 09:47 AM	#96
nah Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Westminster, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 282	I just got a 35mm ltd and it's an awesome lens. I love the fact that it's a macro lens and it's wide enough to shoot pretty much anything. It's also sharp!

04-28-2011, 10:21 AM	#97
spicy cho Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 73	Originally posted by Eruditass What's everyone's solution for carrying around a body and 1 pancake? I was thinking a small nylon bag or sock but a lowepro lens bag looked interesting too with better padding and a belt loop, albeit bigger: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-camera-field-accessories/96715-k-x...small-bag.html I wanted something that I would take literally everywhere. Yup, the 1W is a great case for that combo. I just have the shoulder strap hanging out out the closed bag and have it slung around my shoulder most of the time when I use that combo. Using the belt loop is a bit awkward.

04-28-2011, 11:18 AM	#99
spicy cho Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 73	Don't think any of those would fit. I can maybe squeeze my kx with a DA 21 in if the hood isn't attached, if that gives you an idea. I can see when I get home.

04-28-2011, 08:30 PM	#100
spicy cho Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 73	You can definitely squeeze in a KX + DA 21 minus hood, it will be a little tight with a filter plus lens cap but I think it would fit. Anything longer is a no go for the 1W.

04-28-2011, 09:30 PM	#101
Frank B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 149	It's a little bigger, but for carrying around a K-7 with the DA15, DA21, DA40 and DA70, a Domke F-5XB works great. There is room for the DA35 Macro if I really want to push it, but usually I just carry 4. In a neutral canvas color (mine is sand) it doesn't look like a camera bag. I took off all the velcro too.

04-28-2011, 10:07 PM	#102
spicy cho Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 73	Originally posted by Frank B It's a little bigger, but for carrying around a K-7 with the DA15, DA21, DA40 and DA70, a Domke F-5XB works great. There is room for the DA35 Macro if I really want to push it, but usually I just carry 4. In a neutral canvas color (mine is sand) it doesn't look like a camera bag. I took off all the velcro too. Yup, that's my bag as well, in olive green. Fits all the stuff in my sig plus an extra set of eneloops sitting in the charger.

04-28-2011, 10:14 PM	#103
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by spicy cho You can definitely squeeze in a KX + DA 21 minus hood, it will be a little tight with a filter plus lens cap but I think it would fit. Anything longer is a no go for the 1W. Cool, thanks for the pic. So it's pushing it with the hood depth wise, what about height and length? Also how does it feel on the belt? or how else do you carry it? Does you find you take your camera more places with it?

04-28-2011, 10:43 PM	#104
spicy cho Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 73	Well, that's pushing it without the hood, for the 21 at least. It wouldn't be much of a squeeze to fit with a lens cap, but anything longer won't work. I don't know if a larger body would fit the pack, I only own the kx. The pack will definitely stick out from your belt, I find it kind of annoying to carry that way. What I tend to do is zip up the camera but leave the shoulder strap hanging out of it, so I can have it slung over one shoulder as I walk about. But then when the camera is out you need a place to stuff the pack, so it's not a perfect solution either. I ended up getting the F5XB because of this, no need to worry about having to make sure the 40 is mounted to put it back in the pack. But if you are just carrying around a kx w/40 and another lens or two, you could just stuff the other ones in a fanny pack and head off. I've taken out the camera quite a bit with the 1W the past few months and it's definitely nice to just grab and go. It's as close to a point and shoot as a dslr can get I think. Now that I have more lenses I needed another solution, but I could see myself using it still.