Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version 4 Likes Search this Thread
04-17-2011, 08:18 AM   #61
Veteran Member
dgaies's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maryland / Washington DC
Posts: 3,917
QuoteOriginally posted by Mike.P® Quote
Add postage ? and 25% for import tax into the UK.
Understood. I don't think it was anyone's intention to say that you could buy it from Canada (or the US) for less money. My point a couple posts back was that I can understand that if I had to pay £560 for the 18-135 I might not be as satisfied with the lens as I am having paid much less.

04-17-2011, 08:20 AM   #62
Veteran Member
Cambo's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 1,016
Yeah, I'll take it off your hands for you....

QuoteOriginally posted by Cannikin Quote
Took the same shots as above and applied 30 seconds worth of post-processing in Lightroom (CA correction, a bit of sharpening):

100mm, f/5.6 (again, ignore the tree branch, it's out of the plane of focus):


100mm, f/8:


135mm, f/8:


Time to head to the dump with my lens?
and I'll dispose of it in an environmentally sensitive manner - straight into my camera bag!

Photozone....

Cameron
04-17-2011, 08:35 AM   #63
Veteran Member
Cambo's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 1,016
Responses....

QuoteOriginally posted by Big G Quote
These sorts of lenses are always a compromise, the Canon equivalent is just as woeful. What I can't get over is the price of the Pentax 18-135mm - £560 here in the UK, is that a joke? I'm sure the build quality is lovely and it's weather sealed, but this is a lens; not an object for internet forum bragging rights.
No, it's not a joke...it was a mistake...

QuoteOriginally posted by dgaies Quote
As much as like the 18-135, if I had to shell out £560 for it, I would certainly think twice before getting one (and in all likelihood not buy it); I got a great deal and paid closer to the equivalent of £175 for my 18-135, which is really the reason I gave it a try in the first place
QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
It's $500 CAD at Prodigital = 361 Euros = 320 UKP.
That's more like it.

QuoteOriginally posted by the swede Quote
And now the final verdict has been removed.

Does Klaus regret his verdict, just because some people think he is wrong?

Not very proffesional

Of course, The lens Klaus had sent could still be a dud. So i dont blame him for anything, nor should anybody else!

IMHO, Pentax has sent back duds to people before, including me. I had a DA*50-135 sent to Hamburg to get back an even worse (another lens) example, without any explanation of why the first didnt get serviced. Swedish service shop confirmed this and saved my day though, and i had a perfect replacement back.

I somewhere read that this is behavior varies from office to office. Kinda sad for us in Europe when Hamburg makes the final calls regarding our warranties.
Klaus' comments on his forum are even dumber than in the article...

QuoteOriginally posted by JanG Quote
Actually, Klaus is giving Pentax a third chance, as he (meanwhile) has posted on the verdict page. That's a lot of good will for a minor brand, but it is definitely no reason for criticizing Klaus bowing to furor.
Have a look at the forum. He goes by measurements ONLY, it seems, which is why he completely misunderstands magnificent lenses like the 77 limited, for example, and why he misses the point on THIS lens. It is TEENY for it's zoom ration - very small, does NOT zoom out as far as the zoom ratio would suggest, focuses very fast and virtually silently, and is exquisitely built. Pentax was trying to make the ultimate travel zoom, and I believe they have - far better than most of those cheap, crappy, rattley, plasticy ultra-zooms on the market that extend a foot and a half when you use them and have the build quality of a cheap toy. It's teeny, fairly light, and beautifully built, to a pro level, weatherproof, which is why;

A) there are distortions, ALL of which can be corrected in Photoshop/Aperture/Lightroom with one little automatic algorhythm (and actually there are provisions in the K5 itself which will let you correct distortions and the like), and

B) it's a bit pricey.

The rest is whiney measurbation. He's a Nikon freak...end of story.

Cameron

Last edited by Cambo; 04-17-2011 at 09:49 AM.
04-17-2011, 08:44 AM   #64
Veteran Member
GeneV's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Albuquerque NM
Photos: Albums
Posts: 9,830
QuoteOriginally posted by JanG Quote
Actually, Klaus is giving Pentax a third chance, as he (meanwhile) has posted on the verdict page. That's a lot of good will for a minor brand, but it is definitely no reason for criticizing Klaus bowing to furor.
I'm a little confused. What was the second chance? I've never quite understood what Pentax was asked and what their response meant concerning the lens tested. He did continue with the same copy of the lens, didn't he?

04-17-2011, 07:41 PM   #65
Veteran Member
deejjjaaaa's Avatar

Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Posts: 2,043
QuoteOriginally posted by Cambo Quote
far better than most of those cheap, crappy, rattley, plasticy ultra-zooms on the market that extend a foot and a half when you use them and have the build quality of a cheap toy. I
Nikon 18-135 does a great job resolution wise...
04-17-2011, 07:54 PM   #66
Veteran Member
deejjjaaaa's Avatar

Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Posts: 2,043
QuoteOriginally posted by Cambo Quote
And regarding the magical 77 Limited, they state, and I quote, "Optically it doesn't offer much beyond the mainstream in this class"...COMPLETELY clued! 'Duhh...LOSERS! (© 2011 by Charlie SOS Sheen inc. All rights reserved. Reproduction, by any means, is....)
and what exactly 77/1.8 offer optically that Klaus measures ( distortion, resolution, vignetting, CAs ) that is way better than more than twice cheap Nikon 85/1.8 ( Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.8 D - Review / Test Report ) for example ? he is not in the business to measure "magic".
04-17-2011, 08:21 PM   #67
ogl
Banned




Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sankt Peterburg
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 8,382
Dear offended 18-135 users, where are your RAWs to see how good this lens?
You rend the air, but no any proofs.

04-17-2011, 09:04 PM   #68
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 478
QuoteOriginally posted by deejjjaaaa Quote
and what exactly 77/1.8 offer optically that Klaus measures ( distortion, resolution, vignetting, CAs ) that is way better than more than twice cheap Nikon 85/1.8 ( Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.8 D - Review / Test Report ) for example ? he is not in the business to measure "magic".
In this logic, what exactly does Nikkor 85mm 1.4 offer that Klaus measures that is way better than more than triple cheap Nikon 85/1.8, especially Border Resolution? Nikon must be so dumb by offering it!

I'm not offending you, but it makes me laugh you compare FA77 with Nikkor 85mm 1.8.
04-17-2011, 09:17 PM   #69
Veteran Member




Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: La Crescenta, CA
Posts: 7,450
QuoteOriginally posted by hyyz Quote
In this logic, what exactly does Nikkor 85mm 1.4 offer that Klaus measures that is way better than more than triple cheap Nikon 85/1.8, especially Border Resolution? Nikon must be so dumb by offering it!

I'm not offending you, but it makes me laugh you compare FA77 with Nikkor 85mm 1.8.
I've owned them both, and they ARE in fact comparable in IQ if not in build.
04-18-2011, 01:53 AM   #70
Inactive Account




Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,310
QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Dear offended 18-135 users, where are your RAWs to see how good this lens?
You rend the air, but no any proofs.

Who's offended Ogl?

That statement you just made, signals nothing but immaturity.
04-18-2011, 03:04 AM   #71
Pentaxian
thibs's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Photos: Albums
Posts: 7,001
Hehehe
04-18-2011, 03:54 AM   #72
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
Rorschach's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kuusamo, Finland
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 652
So what? The guy's a pixel peeper extraordinaire. I much rather pay attention to real world test reports from the field.
04-18-2011, 04:12 AM   #73
Veteran Member




Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 581
QuoteOriginally posted by deejjjaaaa Quote
Nikon 18-135 does a great job resolution wise...
Indeed, it certainly seems to measure a lot better than Canon and Pentax's efforts. I would have to plump for a Sigma offering as I couldn't justify the Canon or Pentax versions given the reviews.
04-18-2011, 04:12 AM   #74
ogl
Banned




Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sankt Peterburg
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 8,382
QuoteOriginally posted by Boucicaut Quote
So what? The guy's a pixel peeper extraordinaire. I much rather pay attention to real world test reports from the field.
I'm with Falk
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/1469423-post23.html
04-18-2011, 04:28 AM   #75
Veteran Member




Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 581
'Rubbish' springs to mind.

Look on the bright side, this testing and extensive discussion should mean noone makes the mistake of shelling out the cash for it . That's no bad thing.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
k-mount, pentax lens, slr lens

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I don't understand photozone.de justtakingpics Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 15 04-16-2011 12:20 PM
K5 and photozone bluekorn Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 5 02-02-2011 02:15 AM
DA*55 at photozone.de. ogl Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 6 11-24-2009 09:51 AM
DA 15mm at photozone Andi Lo Pentax News and Rumors 33 10-23-2009 02:22 AM
DA 15mm Photozone Review!! K206 Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 2 10-19-2009 08:17 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:06 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top