Which Portrait do you prefer?

kheldour · 04-18-2011, 01:09 PM

Just some PS work done...

Younger by 10 years

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selar · 04-18-2011, 01:14 PM

Thanks for the useful pointers, very interesting, keep them coming.

selar · 04-18-2011, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by farfisa

I'm guessing that's the DA 70 and the FA/F/K 85 soft

Spot on. DA 70 LTD and K85/2.2 soft

selar · 04-18-2011, 01:56 PM

The DA70 was at f2.8, The K85 was at f4.

**Kerrowdown** · 04-18-2011, 02:06 PM

Looking at the poll result so far.......................................... there's always one

Before you ask it weren't me.

KxBlaze · 04-18-2011, 04:24 PM

Definitely #1. When I look at #2 I can't decide whether it's an abstract portrait or if the focus is off. Blurring in portraits is ok but not for the entire image, maybe just the background or a portion of the portrait.

Pentaxor · 04-18-2011, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by kheldour

Just some PS work done...

Younger by 10 years

you could have added some hair as well.

selar · 04-18-2011, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by KxBlaze

if the focus is off

I think the focus is off, the lens is astigmatic, and so am I, we don't make a good manual focusing pair. It does say in the lens manual to not rely on the AF beep.

selar · 04-18-2011, 06:26 PM

Why does the DA70 exhibit such harsh bokeh?

**Lowell Goudge** · 04-18-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by selar

Why does the DA70 exhibit such harsh bokeh?

The DA 70 is F2.4 if the shot was at F 2.8 I am very surprised at how apparent the 5 blade aperture is in the bokeh

paperbag846 · 04-18-2011, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

The DA 70 is F2.4 if the shot was at F 2.8 I am very surprised at how apparent the 5 blade aperture is in the bokeh

Isn't it a 9 blade?

selar · 04-18-2011, 09:59 PM

You mean I'm a few blades short of a clean shave?!

paperbag846 · 04-18-2011, 10:14 PM

I thought I would take a crack at the photoshopping...

Looks ok, but not great.

I'm really shocked the DA 70 gave you bokeh like that. I never experienced that in the month or so I played with it!

twitch · 04-19-2011, 02:20 AM

#2 looks terrible frankly.

#1 looks better but the bokeh is very harsh. Tha bokeh is not typical for that lens.

**Lowell Goudge** · 04-19-2011, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by selar

Why does the DA70 exhibit such harsh bokeh?

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

The DA 70 is F2.4 if the shot was at F 2.8 I am very surprised at how apparent the 5 blade aperture is in the bokeh

Originally posted by paperbag846

Isn't it a 9 blade?

I see what looks like a pentagon or hexagon artifact in the OFF lights, can't be 9 blades, it should have almost round artifacts

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04-18-2011, 10:14 PM	#28
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	I thought I would take a crack at the photoshopping... Looks ok, but not great. I'm really shocked the DA 70 gave you bokeh like that. I never experienced that in the month or so I played with it! Last edited by paperbag846; 06-10-2011 at 03:21 PM.

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04-18-2011, 01:09 PM	#16
kheldour Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cologne Photos: Gallery Posts: 306	Just some PS work done... Younger by 10 years Attached Images

04-18-2011, 01:14 PM	#17
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042 Original Poster	Thanks for the useful pointers, very interesting, keep them coming.

04-18-2011, 01:21 PM	#18
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042 Original Poster	Originally posted by farfisa I'm guessing that's the DA 70 and the FA/F/K 85 soft Spot on. DA 70 LTD and K85/2.2 soft

04-18-2011, 01:56 PM	#19
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042 Original Poster	The DA70 was at f2.8, The K85 was at f4.

04-18-2011, 02:06 PM	#20
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,814	Looking at the poll result so far.......................................... there's always one Before you ask it weren't me.

04-18-2011, 04:24 PM	#21
KxBlaze Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,602	Definitely #1. When I look at #2 I can't decide whether it's an abstract portrait or if the focus is off. Blurring in portraits is ok but not for the entire image, maybe just the background or a portion of the portrait.

04-18-2011, 04:31 PM	#22
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by kheldour Just some PS work done... Younger by 10 years you could have added some hair as well.

04-18-2011, 06:09 PM	#23
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042 Original Poster	Originally posted by KxBlaze if the focus is off I think the focus is off, the lens is astigmatic, and so am I, we don't make a good manual focusing pair. It does say in the lens manual to not rely on the AF beep.

04-18-2011, 06:26 PM	#24
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042 Original Poster	Why does the DA70 exhibit such harsh bokeh?

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Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	Originally posted by selar Why does the DA70 exhibit such harsh bokeh? The DA 70 is F2.4 if the shot was at F 2.8 I am very surprised at how apparent the 5 blade aperture is in the bokeh

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04-18-2011, 08:04 PM	#26
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge The DA 70 is F2.4 if the shot was at F 2.8 I am very surprised at how apparent the 5 blade aperture is in the bokeh Isn't it a 9 blade?

04-18-2011, 09:59 PM	#27
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042 Original Poster	You mean I'm a few blades short of a clean shave?!

04-19-2011, 02:20 AM	#29
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	#2 looks terrible frankly. #1 looks better but the bokeh is very harsh. Tha bokeh is not typical for that lens.

04-19-2011, 04:12 AM	#30
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	Originally posted by selar Why does the DA70 exhibit such harsh bokeh? Originally posted by Lowell Goudge The DA 70 is F2.4 if the shot was at F 2.8 I am very surprised at how apparent the 5 blade aperture is in the bokeh Originally posted by paperbag846 Isn't it a 9 blade? I see what looks like a pentagon or hexagon artifact in the OFF lights, can't be 9 blades, it should have almost round artifacts