Originally posted by rparmar Short Version
Marc, why not simply use manual focus?
Because both AF and MF have value, and sometimes the best results are had by *quickly* making the call between them. I understand that *you* don't shoot in such a way that this matters. But *I* do.
Quote: I can't think of a single situation in which I think "I trust the AF to nail the focus... oh no, wait I now must change my mind and over-ride it."
Actually, this isn't all that uncommon in my experience. You let AF take a crack at it, and if you find it hunting, or see in the viewfinder that it isn't locking where you want, you override. Quickly, or the moment is gone.
But that's not actually the main way I use quick shift. It's more about letting AF succeed for the first shot, but realizing that if you then take a bunch of shots in succession while still in AF mode, you risk losing some to hunting or to focus on something else (instrument, microphone, etc). Sure, you can quickly cancel AF even for FA lenses using the button on the back of the camera, but that isn't enough if the subject is moving - you need to also be able to turn the focus ring to follow the subject. So I use AF to get a lock for an initial shot, then cancel AF with the rear button and use MF from then on to track the motion for the rest of the sequence. At any point when I think it prudent I can take my thumb off the rear button and let the camera refocus.
In concert photography, we're talking split second timing. Having to use the front switch every time I wish to change between AF and MF would guarantee me lost shots, period. As would having to use AF exclusively or having to use MF exclusively. I have a pretty good idea when each is most likely to be effective, but this changes on a second-to-second basis. That's why quick shift is so valuable to me.
Quote: one might consider that changing aperture takes time and so might make one miss a shot.
True. But there is basically no timing-critical situation in which I ever need to finesse aperture the way I constantly do for focus. In my concert photography, I generally shoot at f/2.8 the whole night. If I ever go up or down from there, it is because of a change in the lighting that demands/permits it, but lightingisn't changing moment to moment.
Quote: And finally what about the Quick Shift Focus bug? I don't have a DA70 here right now but I recall it is the same. Quick Shift Focus always shows the hexagon even when you are no longer in focus.
Interesting; I hadn't noticed that. I'm sure you're right, but when I'm using quick shift in the ways I've described, I don't tend to be looking at the hexagon - I'm truly focusing manually. After all, even without this bug, the hexagon is going to confused by the exact same things that made me want to switch to MF mode in the first place (an instrument or microphone in the way).
Quote: P.S. My domain of experience is similar to yours, since I too get paid mostly for event photography. 95% of the time I am in MF.
Indeed, if I didn't have quick shift, I'd reluctantly turn off AF on my DA70 95% of the time, too. Luckily, because of quick shift, I don't have to make that choice.
I suspect quick shift is one of those things like graphical user interfaces were back in the early 1980's. I can't tell you how many times I heard someone say, "why would I ever want a mouse", or "who cares if you can have more than program open at once - you can still only work on thing one at time". I was even among them. But it didn't take long for most people to become convinced. I still use my keyboard a lot more than most people do, but you don't see me pining for the days of command-line interfaces.
Bottom line: you can't make me not value quick shift any more than I could make you not value the "FA Limited rendering". What I don't get is why you think it important to try. I'm not trying to get your to change your mind about *your* subjective preferences. Can't we each just have our subjective preferences and let it go at that? We agree on far more than we disagree; who needs the kind of bad will these sorts of discussions can engender?