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05-22-2011, 03:49 AM   #1
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Am I crazy?

I already have the DA70, but I'm about to pull the trigger on an FA77. I've been perfectly happy with the performance of the DA70 (vibrancy, focus speed, bokeh rendering) but the mystical pixie dust status of the FA77 has pulled me in.

Secondly, my current lineup stands at:
Sigma 10-20, DA15, DA35, DA40, FA43, DA70

I'm thinking about consolidating down to:
Sigma 10-20, DA*16-50, FA43, FA77

DA40 - fantastic size and speed, but prefer the FA43 (similar FL)
DA15 - great flare resistance, but the DA*16-50 is a more suitable walkabout
DA35 - nice focal length, but as above the DA*16-50 would be better for walkabout

Opinions welcome. Can get the FA77 second hand for $680. Also considered the DA*50-135.

05-22-2011, 03:57 AM   #2
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It's a very understandable craziness... explained by three letters: L, B, A.
Then again, your planned kit isn't bad - it'd basically replaced the DA limiteds with FA limiteds.
Either way would be fine. Little to lose.

The 50-135 is also a great lens - if you like the 16-50 for your walkaround stuff, you'll love the 50-135 for your telezoom stuff. Focusing is slower, but you have great IQ. Your call there. (I'd even consider both )
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Boy trading Limited lenses for SDM? NO FREAKING WAY!
05-22-2011, 04:09 AM   #4
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Maybe I should just ditch the DA*16-50 and get an FA31, hahah

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QuoteOriginally posted by wlachan Quote
trading Limited lenses for SDM? NO FREAKING WAY!
now I have seen it all.
05-22-2011, 05:13 AM   #6
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I'll buy your 15Ltd, I think it's holding you back
05-22-2011, 08:32 AM   #7
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Get the FA77 secondhand for $680. Compare it to the DA70. If you don't think the 77 is worth the premium then sell it and keep the 70.

I did the same thing a while back and kept the 77. I think this is a really sensible way of telling if which lens is better. You really can't lose because it is easy to resell the 77 and you may even make a small profit.

This method of trying out lenses is quite the opposite of crazy.
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I would agree that the 16-50 is bit of a gamble with all the SDM failures...

You could do -

SELL: Sigma 10-20, DA 15, DA 40

BUY: Pentax 12-24, FA 77

and finally, sell either the DA 70 or FA 77.

12-24, 35 (Macro), 43, 70/77.

My comparison from having owned both:

DA 70 - focused faster, quickshift, more vivid colours that work best if you are going to post-process, 9/10 bokeh.

FA 77 - more natural colours that work best if you do not want to post process, 10/10 bokeh, hood is a little short (some flare on digital), about 1 stop faster is nice but only occasionally useful. WAY MORE CHROMATIC ABERRATIONS. If you are also shooting film though, the FA 77 is the way to go.

Depending on your needs, the FA 77 could *easily* be worth it and be a steal at 680, or *easily* be overkill. If you want it specifically for portraiture, the 77 is best for that. I find the DA 70 is better for general purpose.

Also I suggested the 12-24 because it goes to 24... which is essentially a ultra wide - wide spread. The 35 is normal, the 43 is a short tele, the 77 is a long tele... functionally this should be a useful spread (and no SDM). Plus the 35 is a macro!

05-22-2011, 02:57 PM   #9
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Considering getting a 70-200 instead of DA*50-135. Might be a more useful focal length.
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I just bought the FA77 even though I was perfectly happy with my DA70. At first I was a bit disappointed with the FA77 as I first shot it side by side with the DA70 in a slightly backlit situation. The FA77 sure PF's a lot more than the DA70. However the more I use the FA77 the more I'm growing to like it; the rendering is beautiful and the extra stop is very handy both from a DOF and exposure POV. Also I thought the DA70 was sharp but wow, the FA77 is incredible.

If Pentax ever comes out with FF though those FA ltds will get even more valuable....

The DA*50-135 is a fantastic zoom and there are many times I use it in preference to either my 70/77. Eg at family events or at the beach. Is it as sharp? No it isn't but not by a huge amount.

Since you have both a 10-20 and a DA15 then you ae in the best position to decide between those. My DA15 will be pryed out of my cold dead hands, while my DA12-24 is "OK", but that hood gives me the irrites. Also the sharpness drops off over 20mm.

I tried 2 copies of a DA*16-50 and gave up, the AF accuracy was a joke and the IQ was pretty poor @ 2.8. The SDM issues add insult to injury.

So, my view is to cover 15ish to 80ish with both prime and zooms as this range is 90% of my shooting and there are too many times that I need a zoom vs a prime or vis versa. O

For me I think I might end up with:
Zooms: 12-24, 28-75 (dont own yet), 50-135, 55-300 (can't justify 60-250 as dont use this range enough)
Primes: 15, 21, 31, 43 (swap for my DA40), 70 (perhaps sell or swap this for a 100mm macro though), 77

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