Anyone have insider's info on the Pentax 18-250mm?

regken · 11-07-2007, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Confused

Hi Tim (Hannican)

The same thing tends to happen in supermarkets. Take cornflakes for example.....here are two packets sitting side-by-side on the shelf and the contents are identical, having both come off the same production line. Yet certain customers will invariably always select the more expensive widely-advertised brand A over the cheaper brand B because they 'perceive' that brand A is somehow 'superior'............go figure !!! No doubt Psychologists would have a field-day with this kind of scenario ?
Anyhow, happy LBA when the opportunity arises.....

Best regards
Richard

I've been selling OEM for over 35 years and the "Brand" thing still amazes me. The same tool except for paint color and 6 different brand names sporting prices ranging from $10 to $70 still makes me laugh. All of the talk about Pentax putting a different coating on the lens is equally ludicrous. The only change in any OEM product is an exterior color like the ring.

Regards,

Ken

pop4 · 11-07-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by regken

Two reasons. In the last week a few reports are starting to surface there are some problems with a few of the Tamrons after a little use.

Do you have any links to those reports? I've been very tempted to buy one of the Tamrons, and I'd be very interested to have a read

**Hannican** · 11-07-2007, 06:29 PM

The TRULY stupid thing about my brand loyalty is that I majored in Psychology in college so I totally understand the irrationality of it.

AND, for every day, general use items, I always, ALWAYS buy non-brand stuff. But for major expenses, I seem to always fall back to the company line and shell out a little extra to get that comfort of the brand name.

I'm working on it though!

I still like the idea of waiting for the Pentax so I can get the Tamron at a better price...

-Tim

jgredline · 11-07-2007, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by matix

What price snobbery....

I have the Tamron, and it is superb... way better IMHO than the 50-200 I got with my Pentax in IQ and Contrast, Color etc.

Phil

Agreed!!
The Tamron 18-250 is Nothing like the tamron 28-300..I can't imagine a better lens of this same type unless it has a larger Arp.

regken · 11-07-2007, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by pop4

Do you have any links to those reports? I've been very tempted to buy one of the Tamrons, and I'd be very interested to have a read

First bad 18-250 shows up.: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

clawhammer · 11-07-2007, 07:13 PM

FWIW, I just checked with my local ritz camera. The have it 'On Order' (no ETA) for 499.99.

JamesD · 11-07-2007, 07:16 PM

Now... are you really sure you're completely impervious to brand loyalty?

For instance, would you consider permanently blacking out the name on your Pentax?

After all... it's just a name and that name plate doesn't really add to the IQ.

It seems to me that we don't have enough evidence to make a definitive statement about the new Pentax zoom. All of this is purely speculation and we'll only know for certain when the lens is actually out there, tested in the field and on the bench. For my part, I purposely bought a Pentax camera and I intend to buy into the Pentax system. I've always admired Pentax optics having had several friends with Pentax systems. I, however, was deeply committed to another line and therefore could not indulge myself (until now). I have full intentions of getting the Pentax zoom when it is released UNLESS there is a huge difference that I believe I simply cannot justify. I suspect the IQ will be better than that of the Tamron but only time will tell.

All the best.

Redwood10D · 11-08-2007, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by JamesD

I have full intentions of getting the Pentax zoom when it is released UNLESS there is a huge difference that I believe I simply cannot justify. I suspect the IQ will be better than that of the Tamron but only time will tell.

All the best.

Well, you might want to get that calculator busy to figure out what you will accept as "huge difference". Most recent price check shows the Tamron at $371 US. Too big a difference for me to want to wait.

jazzman · 11-08-2007, 05:27 PM

Redwood10D, wondering which store is carrying this lens for 371. Google didnt have an answer for me

JamesD · 11-08-2007, 09:09 PM

Amazon still have the Tammy at $499 so I'm curious as well.

I'm willing to go for about a hundred difference. Beyond that... well... I may have to reconsider.

jgredline · 11-08-2007, 09:29 PM

I paid 489.00 for my Tamron 18-250mm and with it being so new, I do not see anyway to get it for 379.00...You must be thinking of the 18-200mm lens...

Anyway, That Tamron 18-250 is worth every penny at 500 bucks...

bymy141 · 11-09-2007, 03:33 AM

It is a mind game.

There has been an experiment on TV, here in Holland, where they've put 2 chairs in a shop, next to each other. They are identical, except one in priced double.
They show you a lot of people trying the two chairs, arguing that the most expensive actually sits better.
At the end of the day, the expensive chairs were sold more than the cheaper priced ones.

You do not always get what you pay for.

Do whatever you like.
It is your money.

- Bert

Redwood10D · 11-09-2007, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by jgredline

I paid 489.00 for my Tamron 18-250mm and with it being so new, I do not see anyway to get it for 379.00...You must be thinking of the 18-200mm lens...

Anyway, That Tamron 18-250 is worth every penny at 500 bucks...

Nope, I said what I wanted to say, $371 and now with free shipping. However be prepared to do a bit of a dance with them.
Camera Addict.com
CameraAddict.com - Tamron*Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto AF 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 Di-II LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens for Pentax AF

jgredline · 11-09-2007, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Redwood10D

Nope, I said what I wanted to say, $371 and now with free shipping. However be prepared to do a bit of a dance with them.
Camera Addict.com
CameraAddict.com - Tamron Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto AF 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 Di-II LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens for Pentax AF

I stand corrected..
Is it possible it is a grey market lens? Do they really have them?

flyboy909 · 11-09-2007, 09:36 AM

Looks like they won't sell it at that price unless you buy a bunch of overpriced accessories.... they are a bait and switch outfit. Do a google search. Wouldn't go near them after what I read.

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11-07-2007, 05:22 PM	#16
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by Confused Hi Tim (Hannican) The same thing tends to happen in supermarkets. Take cornflakes for example.....here are two packets sitting side-by-side on the shelf and the contents are identical, having both come off the same production line. Yet certain customers will invariably always select the more expensive widely-advertised brand A over the cheaper brand B because they 'perceive' that brand A is somehow 'superior'............go figure !!! No doubt Psychologists would have a field-day with this kind of scenario ? Anyhow, happy LBA when the opportunity arises..... Best regards Richard I've been selling OEM for over 35 years and the "Brand" thing still amazes me. The same tool except for paint color and 6 different brand names sporting prices ranging from $10 to $70 still makes me laugh. All of the talk about Pentax putting a different coating on the lens is equally ludicrous. The only change in any OEM product is an exterior color like the ring. Regards, Ken

11-07-2007, 05:48 PM	#17
pop4 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: YMML Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,879	Originally posted by regken Two reasons. In the last week a few reports are starting to surface there are some problems with a few of the Tamrons after a little use. Do you have any links to those reports? I've been very tempted to buy one of the Tamrons, and I'd be very interested to have a read

11-07-2007, 06:29 PM	#18
Hannican Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Irvine, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 485 Original Poster	The TRULY stupid thing about my brand loyalty is that I majored in Psychology in college so I totally understand the irrationality of it. AND, for every day, general use items, I always, ALWAYS buy non-brand stuff. But for major expenses, I seem to always fall back to the company line and shell out a little extra to get that comfort of the brand name. I'm working on it though! I still like the idea of waiting for the Pentax so I can get the Tamron at a better price... -Tim

11-07-2007, 06:31 PM	#19
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Originally posted by matix What price snobbery.... I have the Tamron, and it is superb... way better IMHO than the 50-200 I got with my Pentax in IQ and Contrast, Color etc. Phil Agreed!! The Tamron 18-250 is Nothing like the tamron 28-300..I can't imagine a better lens of this same type unless it has a larger Arp.

11-07-2007, 06:44 PM	#20
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by pop4 Do you have any links to those reports? I've been very tempted to buy one of the Tamrons, and I'd be very interested to have a read First bad 18-250 shows up.: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

11-07-2007, 07:13 PM	#21
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	FWIW, I just checked with my local ritz camera. The have it 'On Order' (no ETA) for 499.99.

11-07-2007, 07:16 PM	#22
JamesD Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 536	Now... are you really sure you're completely impervious to brand loyalty? For instance, would you consider permanently blacking out the name on your Pentax? After all... it's just a name and that name plate doesn't really add to the IQ. It seems to me that we don't have enough evidence to make a definitive statement about the new Pentax zoom. All of this is purely speculation and we'll only know for certain when the lens is actually out there, tested in the field and on the bench. For my part, I purposely bought a Pentax camera and I intend to buy into the Pentax system. I've always admired Pentax optics having had several friends with Pentax systems. I, however, was deeply committed to another line and therefore could not indulge myself (until now). I have full intentions of getting the Pentax zoom when it is released UNLESS there is a huge difference that I believe I simply cannot justify. I suspect the IQ will be better than that of the Tamron but only time will tell. All the best.

11-08-2007, 09:18 AM	#23
Redwood10D Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Claremont, CA USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 77	Originally posted by JamesD I have full intentions of getting the Pentax zoom when it is released UNLESS there is a huge difference that I believe I simply cannot justify. I suspect the IQ will be better than that of the Tamron but only time will tell. All the best. Well, you might want to get that calculator busy to figure out what you will accept as "huge difference". Most recent price check shows the Tamron at $371 US. Too big a difference for me to want to wait.

11-08-2007, 05:27 PM	#24
jazzman Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 42	Redwood10D, wondering which store is carrying this lens for 371. Google didnt have an answer for me

11-08-2007, 09:09 PM	#25
JamesD Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 536	Amazon still have the Tammy at $499 so I'm curious as well. I'm willing to go for about a hundred difference. Beyond that... well... I may have to reconsider.

11-08-2007, 09:29 PM	#26
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	I paid 489.00 for my Tamron 18-250mm and with it being so new, I do not see anyway to get it for 379.00...You must be thinking of the 18-200mm lens... Anyway, That Tamron 18-250 is worth every penny at 500 bucks...

11-09-2007, 03:33 AM	#27
bymy141 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,563	It is a mind game. There has been an experiment on TV, here in Holland, where they've put 2 chairs in a shop, next to each other. They are identical, except one in priced double. They show you a lot of people trying the two chairs, arguing that the most expensive actually sits better. At the end of the day, the expensive chairs were sold more than the cheaper priced ones. You do not always get what you pay for. Do whatever you like. It is your money. - Bert

11-09-2007, 09:01 AM	#28
Redwood10D Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Claremont, CA USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 77	Originally posted by jgredline I paid 489.00 for my Tamron 18-250mm and with it being so new, I do not see anyway to get it for 379.00...You must be thinking of the 18-200mm lens... Anyway, That Tamron 18-250 is worth every penny at 500 bucks... Nope, I said what I wanted to say, $371 and now with free shipping. However be prepared to do a bit of a dance with them. Camera Addict.com CameraAddict.com - Tamron*Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto AF 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 Di-II LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens for Pentax AF

11-09-2007, 09:06 AM	#29
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Originally posted by Redwood10D Nope, I said what I wanted to say, $371 and now with free shipping. However be prepared to do a bit of a dance with them. Camera Addict.com CameraAddict.com - Tamron Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto AF 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 Di-II LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens for Pentax AF I stand corrected.. Is it possible it is a grey market lens? Do they really have them?

11-09-2007, 09:36 AM	#30
flyboy909 Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tolland, CT Posts: 3	Looks like they won't sell it at that price unless you buy a bunch of overpriced accessories.... they are a bait and switch outfit. Do a google search. Wouldn't go near them after what I read.