Originally posted by wlachan FF is great but I think not everyone is ready for the bulk, weight and cost, especially for the whole kit. Also, the EF24-70/2.8 is not particular great on both optically and built quality.
Now you're starting to add constraints to your statement of
"Don't toy with junk, get the EF-S 17-55/2.8 if it's a money tool, I am serious" which you didn't have before. Maybe the OP isn't ready for the weight and cost of a non-Pentax body and lens, whether it means switching entire systems or just adding a EOS body and the EF-S17-55/2.8....
And yeah, the EF 24-70/2.8L isn't regarded as a particularly great performer, although I kinda meant the D3s + Nikkor 24-70/2.8G when I said FF + 24-70/2.8
In the old days, some photographers also used medium format cameras for wedding photography, so taking it further, if it's a money making tool...
Originally posted by Ash Perhaps with the DA* series, but the DAs are great (10-17, 12-24, 16-45, 55-300 in particular) and there are FA* and F* zooms that are excellent as well.
My personal experience is:
- I've currently got the 10-17 and it's actually a really good lens, except for a bit more fringing than I would like, and it's not HSM (though if Pentax did put it's SDM in it, I'd probably wouldn't be touching that lens with a 100 foot pole).
- I've never had the 12-24, but chose the Sigma 10-20/4-5.6 over it when deciding to buy a UWA zoom, and it wasn't in the contention either when I decided to upgrade to the Sigma 10-20mm/3.5
- had the 16-45 and it was a sharp lens, but I'll chose the Sigma 17-50/2.8 that I currently have over the 16-45 anyday
- had the 55-300 and it was a good lens, and in my research, better than the equivalent Sigma/Tamron offerings. But I got rid of it because it was too slow
Actually, while writing the above, it's dawned on me that Pentax aren't actually
that weak in their zooms, but only on a consumer lens level. I mean, even the original DA 18-55/3.5-5.6 was touted as being one of the best kit lenses available at that time, and the 55-300 did and still does kick ass.
But, what Pentax really lacks are good zooms in that prosumer/pro category, the ~17-50/2.8 lenses, and the ~70-200/2.8 lenses. Sure, they did try with the DA* 16-50/2.8 and DA*50-135/2.8, but with the SDM debacle that doesn't actually officially exist....
Keep in mind though, that Canon has had USM technology since ~1987 and Nikkor their SWM since ~1996 so those two have a lot more experience with their silent motors. Pentax has only had SDM since 2007, and it seems that they are learning and improving, since this new DC focusing system doesn't seem to have as much reported failures as SDM...