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View Poll Results: Which lenses to develop in future?
DA 8mm/f4 WR fisheye 406.67%
DA-L 18mm/f4 294.83%
FA 20mm/f2.2 Ltd. 9215.33%
DA 24mm/f2.0 WR 18230.33%
DA 28mm/f2.8 Ltd. 6510.83%
DFA 50mm/f1.0 9315.50%
DA-L 60mm/f2.8 203.33%
DA* 85mm/f1.4 16527.50%
DA-L 90mm/f2.8 274.50%
DA 100mm/f2.4 Ltd. 244.00%
FA 105mm/f1.9 Ltd. 7312.17%
DA* 135mm/f2.0 13622.67%
DFA 200mm/f4 macro WR 10417.33%
DA* 300mm/f2.8 6110.17%
DA 400mm/f5.6 WR 7813.00%
DFA* 500mm/f5.6 9115.17%
DA 600mm/f5.6 WR 6210.33%
DA* 28-70/f2.8 9115.17%
DA 70-200mmf4 SDM WR to compliment 17-70 528.67%
DFA* 80-200mm/f2.8 8013.33%
DA* 135-270mm f2.8 to compliment 16-50/50-135 8013.33%
DA 135-400mm/f4-5.6 WR 10617.67%
DFA* TC 1.4x SDM topquality converter 19933.17%
DFA* TC 2.0x SDM topquality converter 8213.67%
SDM II with faster focussing, new lensversions current DA*. 19933.17%
Sigma lenses are fine for me completing the lens line-up. 254.17%
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06-05-2011, 04:08 PM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Would you like to have it costing say $ 200 (making it a DA-L 28mm/f2.8) or $ 600 (making it a DA 28mm/f2.4 Ltd) or DM (manual only lens) of 28mm/f1.8 for let's guess $ 800 or a wopping $ 1500 for a DA* 28mm/f1.4?

In terms of FOV their the same. In sence of isolating you main part in the picture there is little difference between f2.8 and f2.4.
Make it DA* and therefore weather sealed for about $800-$1200 RRP which would be consistent with the other DA* lenses. Honestly I really wouldn't care if it was 2.4 or 2.8 I just can't see such a lens being DA* sealed so wouldn't buy it.

Edit: and the only reason Pentax would make a manual focus lens is for a tilt-shift one, they definately aren't going to develop a regular manual focus lens.

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A DA*400mm f/2.8 would be fantastic - that way we can use 2X teleconverters and get 800mm f/5.6

Which is what I do with my canon and Nikon cameras - the longest lenses I have for those systems are 400mm f/2.8's because they work so well with extenders.

Other than that I'm sure a DA*11-16mm f/2.8 would be a nice addition. The addition of a fast 100~150mm FA limited lens would be awesome, I also would ask for an FA limited lens that is wider and as fast as the FA31mm f/1.8 would be great too. I think a DA*50mm f/1.0 might be a bit of a stretch for the Pentax K mount not to mention the pentax AF system if they do make one they had better use of ED and aspherical elements in it.

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Pentax, please complete the tele line: a 300-500 zoom or a compact 500/5.6
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Is this poll open to everyone? Even grumpy cheap bastards? The poll lacks options for NO OPINION and DON'T CARE. I'm most unlikely to be able to afford another new Pentax lens anytime soon (unless another inheritance comes my way) so I don't really care what Pentax does lens-wise. So THERE!

Of course, if they come out with a 35/1.2 for US$250, I'll change my tune.

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A DA*400mm f/2.8 would be fantastic - that way we can use 2X teleconverters and get 800mm f/5.6

Other than that I'm sure a DA*11-16mm f/2.8 would be a nice addition.
Lucky for me most of your wishes where in the poll.

Coming to the 11-16mm, should it be f2.8 and not f4? Wouldn't that mean that it is large as a truck or am I wrong on that? Double the size of the DA14mm/f2.8 or even more? That is expansive.

EDIT: Just looked at the Tokina lens and that is just under 600 grams and has a 77mm frontglass. So that is not to big, but compared to a f4 lensdesign big. It would complete the DA*zoom lensline as is the 135-270 making it with these two lenses almost 25xzoom serie. But at a very hi pricetag for a full set of all 4 lenses.

I do see your urge for the 400/2.8, but I don't see any market for it among most users in the current Pentaxbase. But then again it should have been an option in the list.

Thought of it this morning. No one brought up the idea of having in lens stabilisation (for telelenses or even more)? Is there no urge for this? By the way this is not the section to discuss the functionality or wanting improvement for inbody Shake Reduction system, that you can do in the dslr-section.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Coming to the 11-16mm, should it be f2.8 and not f4? Wouldn't that mean that it is large as a truck or am I wrong on that?
yes I have been looking the the Tokina who make the 11-16mm f/2.8 - and yes that is exactly what I want to see from pentax if they could add SDM and WR that would just be a bonus.

QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
I do see your urge for the 400/2.8, but I don't see any market for it among most users in the current Pentaxbase.
I agree, 400mm f/2.8 lenses are expensive when I was searching for a fast 400mm lens for my Nikon D3s I noted that the Nikkor AF-S 400mm f/2.8G IF ED VR is about $1000 MORE expensive than the Nikkor 500mm f/4 IF ED VR - but I still went with the 400mm f/2.8 because it is much more versatile* - I do not like using lenses slower than f/4 with an SLR. Because it makes the viewfinder dim and that dimness makes it difficult to ascertain whether the image is in proper focus, and slower lenses put limits on the use of flash - which is an essential tool for wildlife work.

*same thing goes for 300mm f/2.8 lenses really - slap on a teleconverter and you have a 600mm f/5.6

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Most important one I'm missing is a DA18/4 Shift or sth alike. For me it can be a bit wider as well (16mm or 17mm), but I suspect 18mm would make most sense (as a sequel to the 28mm shift of old).

I can find myself in most other suggestions, but you may lack some options in the UWA range.

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Popularity of the DA 24mm F/2.0 WR

I think the real reason for the popularity of this lens is the WR. To date there is no prime under 50mm with WR. I'm assuming that if Pentax made such a lens it would be only slightly larger than the FA* 24mm F/2.0 (larger for the weather seals) There are enough of us landscape/garden/street photogs who like shooting in inclement weather to warrant making such a lens.
Another thing interesting about the poll, now that it is approaching 100 participants is that the 24mm lens is the only lens in the top three options. The other two are the premium 1.4 t/c and improved SDM. I'm a bit surprised that the t/c is currently ahead of improved SDM, but statistically they are about dead even.
The only other lens that is currently above 25% is the DA* 135mm. I'm not terribly surprised, the K 135 F/2.5 is considered one the the best lenses in the entire Pentax collection. A modern edition of this gem is obviously highly desired.

NaCl(tho I think I'll keep my K 135mm F/2.5)H2O

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*same thing goes for 300mm f/2.8 lenses really - slap on a teleconverter and you have a 600mm f/5.6
That is why the 300/f2.8 made it to the list even when demand and usabillity is small in current usergroup. There is a market for a 300mm(ish)/f2.8 lens I think. (says the man who spend half a year on searching an A*300mm/f2.8 or FA*300mm/f2.8)

QuoteOriginally posted by Ishpuini Quote
Most important one I'm missing is a DA18/4 Shift or sth alike. For me it can be a bit wider as well (16mm or 17mm), but I suspect 18mm would make most sense (as a sequel to the 28mm shift of old).

I can find myself in most other suggestions, but you may lack some options in the UWA range.

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Good to bring it up, since I only thought of the tilt/shift lens after I put up the poll. Put it in the first message. You say 18mm, but I also see 35mm and more? I'm not aware off wich to choose, but is wide-angle the way to go? Is it possible to make a Converter style tilt/shift to put between camera and lens so you can put on just any lens in your bag? Or am I just thinking off something that wouldn't work?

QuoteOriginally posted by NaClH2O Quote
Another thing interesting about the poll, now that it is approaching 100 participants is that the 24mm lens is the only lens in the top three options. The other two are the premium 1.4 t/c and improved SDM. I'm a bit surprised that the t/c is currently ahead of improved SDM, but statistically they are about dead even.
The only other lens that is currently above 25% is the DA* 135mm. I'm not terribly surprised, the K 135 F/2.5 is considered one the the best lenses in the entire Pentax collection. A modern edition of this gem is obviously highly desired.

NaCl(tho I think I'll keep my K 135mm F/2.5)H2O
Well there is one reason, and that is that I also put a quote off this thread in the section where there is a demand for that premium TC. So the people who want it and discuss it are drawn to here. Making it coming into top 3 at the time, since there are less then 100 people voting. On the other hand it is a real missing item in the lens-line-up (I voted for a 1,4xTC myself).

I think that SDM failure in past and current being the slowest link in AF on K-5 camera makes one desire a new updated version SDM-II.

It is to early to make some conclusions, since I'm also looking at the possabillity's. One off the obvious reasons is competition between lenses that are alike (400/500/600mm or 85/90/100/105mm) even if the price differs due to different lensline (FA, DA, DA*). Just be patient.

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QuoteOriginally posted by NaClH2O Quote
I think I'll keep my K 135mm F/2.5
funny, I absolutely hated that lens - it has the worse LoCa I have ever seen, bar none. I would rather use the A*135mm f/1.8 and stop it down.
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1 st place DFA* TC 1.4x SDM topquality converter
2 nd place DA 24mm/f2.0 WR
3 d place DA* 135mm/f2.0
4 th place DA* 85mm/f1.4
5 th place DFA 200mm/f4 macro WR

Good choice
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We have a 300mm so 400mm and even 500mm doesn't offer much more when you're thinking of the reasons to be using an extreme telephoto. I simply can't see the purpose in offering either of these lenses. A 600mm or 800mm prime (or a zoom) would be a nice compliment to the lineup.
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A 135mm F/2 and 85mm F/1.4 are all I'd care about.....
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All I care about is time, time to take out what I have, I don't have life enough to really use it all to bit and pieces. Bound within duties dreams emerge of freedom to just go. Thoughts of new equipment are a surrogate, but they are nice. And if ever a new Pentax specialty pops up, oh, please, let it be a 24mm WR WR WR WR WR 2.0 - 2.4 whatever. I am tired of wrapping plastic around my takumar 24mm. Growing so much older now, I could use some more comfortable solutions. And whatever, no heavy barrels, no. When dreaming, I want the impossible, a 200mm macro lightstrong and featherlight. This afternoon I think I'll step out with my takumar 105mm. We are about the same age, feels comfortable.
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1 st place DFA* TC 1.4x SDM topquality converter
2 nd place DA 24mm/f2.0 WR
3 d place DA* 135mm/f2.0
4 th place DA* 85mm/f1.4
5 th place DFA 200mm/f4 macro WR

Good choice
Not to hasty in your conclusions. There are some interesting things developing. But for good conclusions we really need another 100 voters. I have made up some summary and to back that up the pool of voters should be bigger. One thing I do see in your list is that the current voters are trending towards lenses that are top off the bill, not only in quality, but also top off the bill when you go with them to the cashregistrer and buy one of them. That is a range off lenses priced at or even above the current toplenses (DA*200/300/50-135/60-250, FA31/77).

So either the current voters are only top-users or there eyes are bigger then their pockets.

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We have a 300mm so 400mm and even 500mm doesn't offer much more when you're thinking of the reasons to be using an extreme telephoto. I simply can't see the purpose in offering either of these lenses. A 600mm or 800mm prime (or a zoom) would be a nice compliment to the lineup.
Well that is nasty matter. Those things are very expensive. I added a DA*400mm/f4.0 to the first post as one off the options in the telerange. I think that would be stretching possible new lenses to it's limits, looking at Hoya's strategy.

And with this message again a question to come and vote. Spread the word that it is wordwile visiting, leaving a message and vote in the poll!

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