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View Poll Results: Which lenses to develop in future?
DA 8mm/f4 WR fisheye 406.67%
DA-L 18mm/f4 294.83%
FA 20mm/f2.2 Ltd. 9215.33%
DA 24mm/f2.0 WR 18230.33%
DA 28mm/f2.8 Ltd. 6510.83%
DFA 50mm/f1.0 9315.50%
DA-L 60mm/f2.8 203.33%
DA* 85mm/f1.4 16527.50%
DA-L 90mm/f2.8 274.50%
DA 100mm/f2.4 Ltd. 244.00%
FA 105mm/f1.9 Ltd. 7312.17%
DA* 135mm/f2.0 13622.67%
DFA 200mm/f4 macro WR 10417.33%
DA* 300mm/f2.8 6110.17%
DA 400mm/f5.6 WR 7813.00%
DFA* 500mm/f5.6 9115.17%
DA 600mm/f5.6 WR 6210.33%
DA* 28-70/f2.8 9115.17%
DA 70-200mmf4 SDM WR to compliment 17-70 528.67%
DFA* 80-200mm/f2.8 8013.33%
DA* 135-270mm f2.8 to compliment 16-50/50-135 8013.33%
DA 135-400mm/f4-5.6 WR 10617.67%
DFA* TC 1.4x SDM topquality converter 19933.17%
DFA* TC 2.0x SDM topquality converter 8213.67%
SDM II with faster focussing, new lensversions current DA*. 19933.17%
Sigma lenses are fine for me completing the lens line-up. 254.17%
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06-07-2011, 05:01 AM   #46
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I would love a compact, Limited 135mm (2.8ish) lens

something to complement the pancake limited lineup. a compact tele option

06-07-2011, 07:10 AM   #47
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QuoteOriginally posted by dankoBanana Quote
I would love a compact, Limited 135mm (2.8ish) lens

something to complement the pancake limited lineup. a compact tele option
Well I don't know a lot about physics, but more then 100mm and pancake are hard to press together.
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Samsung is about to release an 85mm of their own. so what the hell is Pentax doing?
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Good to bring it up, since I only thought of the tilt/shift lens after I put up the poll. Put it in the first message. You say 18mm, but I also see 35mm and more? I'm not aware off wich to choose, but is wide-angle the way to go?
I would say so, mainly because of (Tilt/)Shift architecture. The classic offering for this was the K28/3.5 Shift (not tilt!), so I would expect an APS-C equivalent FOV in the new Pentax offering, hence 18mm. Tilt is not so important because of the large DOF you can typically expect at such focal lengths.

I have the K28/3.5, and whereas this is a nice lens to use in some cases, it's not very flexible. The longer the focal length, the less important the Shift becomes (because of perspective flattening) and the more important Tilt on the other hand (because of the reducing DOF). Hence I don't see 35mm and longer Tilt/Shift lenses as architecture lenses. They are more suitable for technical product photography or for creative effect.

Anyway, the longer focal lengths exist from third parties (I have the Hartblei 65mm Super Rotator), the shorter just don't exist.

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Is it possible to make a Converter style tilt/shift to put between camera and lens so you can put on just any lens in your bag? Or am I just thinking off something that wouldn't work?
An adapter would be nice of course, but that would require glass to compensate for the increased registration distance in order to keep focus to infinite, and hence lengthen the focal length of the lens mounted by at least 1.4x I would think. So even if you would mount say a DA15, this would become a 21mm lens, i.e. a moderate wide angle only.

Anyway, I don't think the image circle of the DA lenses would allow shifting and tilting without vignetting. Perhaps FA and older glass could work though, but these are in even longer focal lengths. Current existing adapters are for Medium Format glass, and those are simply not available in focal lengths that are even remotely close to wide angle on APS-C.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ishpuini Quote
I would say so, mainly because of (Tilt/)Shift architecture. The classic offering for this was the K28/3.5 Shift (not tilt!), so I would expect an APS-C equivalent FOV in the new Pentax offering, hence 18mm. Tilt is not so important because of the large DOF you can typically expect at such focal lengths.

An adapter would be nice of course, but that would require glass to compensate for the increased registration distance in order to keep focus to infinite, and hence lengthen the focal length of the lens mounted by at least 1.4x I would think. So even if you would mount say a DA15, this would become a 21mm lens, i.e. a moderate wide angle only.
Thanks for sharing this information. I have an adapter for Nikon->pK and that is like a 1,25xTC because you need some glass. So that would at least be the minimum I think for such an adapter. So that is no option to go with at APS-C.

Leaving three option: no t/s lens at all, having only one in production or changing for this type off work towards 645D.
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A 24mm would fit me very well. Most of my kit lens shots are right at that length. I'm just not sure about the DA 21. I owned a Nikon Pronea 6i which was an APS film SLR and loved the 24-70 Nikkor. Most of my shooting with that camera was at the 24mm length.
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I think they should re-release some of the manual focus SMC's but computer design and coatings updated. If they were smart they'd also manufacture them in (dare I say) other mounts.
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I think they should re-release some of the manual focus SMC's but computer design and coatings updated. If they were smart they'd also manufacture them in (dare I say) other mounts.
Wich ones?

Convert them into DA with autofocus, or bringing them back as a new DM (digital optimiced but Manual focus only) lensline?

Well for bringing them into other lensmounts you probably need approval and a license to use those mounts. I wouldn't count on that.


P.S. Still looking for another 100 poll entry's!

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+1 for a da 35 1.4 or 1.8 under 300 bucks to compete with nikon.
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"DA* 135mm/f2.0"
That one Or 150mm. The gap between 100 and 200 is too much IMHO.
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You can select 5 different lenses/choices. Think off what you would want/buy or what would complete the Pentax lens line-up to make it attractive for new users off the Pentax dslr system.

As always, things change overtime. Here I will add new ideas that will pop-up in time:
  • Tilt/shift lens for architecture, like DA 18mm/f3.5 WR T/S.
  • DA 10mm/f4 WR, or a DA 10-16mm/f4 WR or DA*11-16mm/f2.8.
  • Updating FA Ltd series with quick shift and WR or turning them into FA* Ltd.
  • DA 45-125mm/f4 to compliment the DA 16-45mm/f4.
  • DM lensline. Making a new lensline off manual focus lenses with chip, so all communication with camerabody.
  • Convert the TC 1,4x into an extensiontube with full contacts, it is the same product without glass.
  • Fast DA* prime from 26 to 30mm f1.4 or a cheap 30 to 35mm f1.9.
  • A fast telelens like DA*400mm/f2.8 or DA*400mm/f4 to fit that bill.
  • Cheaper short tele like DA85mm/f2 WR or DA120mm/f2.8 WR.

With like 200+ voters this could turn into a real good future lens roadmap!
Well the list of extra options is getting large. There are at the moment not really good choices in it that would be a first choice over the few in the poll that make the top at te time. At least that is what I think!

Or am I wrong about this?

Remember that we are looking for what to design and bring into production over the coming years, say 2012-2016. If one misses an oppertunity at the time there is still a good way to you in a period after that. Or maybe some stubbern guy at Hoya gives it another tought.

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QuoteOriginally posted by wacrider Quote
I think they should re-release some of the manual focus SMC's but computer design and coatings updated. If they were smart they'd also manufacture them in (dare I say) other mounts.
That wouldn't be a bad idea. They could pick the best of and call it a 'Legacy Series.' It wouldn't be too hard to get them to work on Nikon mount either.

They could do a similar thing with some of the F and FA lenses for Pentax only like updating the F 28/2.8 with Ghostless Coating and SP and the FA 135/2.8 the same way.

Tooling shouldn't be too difficult and running a specialty line should be feasible.
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They could pick the best of and call it a 'Legacy Series.'
If they did that I would love to see a re-release of the SMCP-K 28mm f/2 - which is a zeiss design.
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If they did that I would love to see a re-release of the SMCP-K 28mm f/2 - which is a zeiss design.
+1 - An amazing lens on the K5.....
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Zooms DA* 8-14 mm f4.5 fisheye DA* 14-60 mm f4 DA* 135-250 mm f3.5 DA* 250-500 f4.5
Primes DA* 11 mm f2.8 DA* 20 mm f2 DA* 90 mm f1.8 DA* 180 mm f4 macro

With the current DA*s this would be a great APS -C setup

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