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06-13-2011, 09:05 PM   #76
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Lets have those in manual focus with A contacts and Ghostless Coating.
You left out WR and pixie dust.

But you're on the right track. The trick is, FIND A NICHE AND FILL IT.

(Aside: Back in the day, I unloaded bags of concrete mix from boxcars, at a site just across the road from a Kaiser Permanente gravel yard. All day those gravel trucks rolled by, flaunting their corporate motto: Find A Need And Fill It. My colleagues and I rephrased that to be more suitable for the gravel business: Find A Hole And Fill It. But I digress.)

So Samyang has found niches at 14mm and 85mm etc. Are fast 18-20-35's workable niches for Pentax to exploit? What would grab shooters' attention (and money)? But hay, just to be clever, how about with the new DM-WR lenses, Pentax includes the option of EOS and Alpha and m4/3 adapters? That way, leeches could buy NEW Pentax lenses, and leave the old ones for us Pentaxians!

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That would be a very good strategy to offer alternative mounts. The Nikon mount is already very close to the K-mount and the tube could be extended a little for the EOS etc. It is common to see Pentax glass such as the 50/1.2 lenses on full-frame EOS bodies.
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Just to bring to everyones attention the threads coming out off the lens development survey: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/146454-wich-le...r-d-money.htmlSince I'm going to try and summarice this survey after the weekend.
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So as it turns out, Nikon still has 8 manual focus lenses in their catalog.

Prime Lens | Manual focus lenses with Fixed Focal Length | Nikon

Nikkor:

20/2.8
24/2.8
28/2.8
35/1.4
50/1.4
50/1.2

micro-Nikkor

55/2,8
105/2.8

Of those lenses, the one that gets my attention is the 35/1.4 which has an msrp of 1164.95. Too bad Pentax doesn't dust of the M 35/1.4, put A contacts, Ghostless Coating and SP on it.

And BAM! BH has the Nikkor AIS in stock for $1099.95 (or 899 for grey market).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/36949-USA/Nikon_1429_Wide_Angle_35mm_f_1_4.html

They have all 8 of those AIS in stock.


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So as it turns out, Nikon still has 8 manual focus lenses in their catalog.
So making a new DM 50mm/f1.2 WR does make some sence and there will be demand for such a lens!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Blue Quote
So as it turns out, Nikon still has 8 manual focus lenses in their catalog.

Prime Lens | Manual focus lenses with Fixed Focal Length | Nikon

Nikkor:

20/2.8
24/2.8
28/2.8
35/1.4
50/1.4
50/1.2

micro-Nikkor

55/2,8
105/2.8

Of those lenses, the one that gets my attention is the 35/1.4 which has an msrp of 1164.95. Too bad Pentax doesn't dust of the M 35/1.4, put A contacts, Ghostless Coating and SP on it.

And BAM! BH has the Nikkor AIS in stock for $1099.95 (or 899 for grey market).

Nikon Nikkor 35mm f/1.4 AIS Manual Focus Lens 1429 B&H Photo

They have all 8 of those AIS in stock.
Just how many Pentax users would actually buy these lenses?
Most older Pentax users fall into the frugal or poor as a church mouse demographic who hark on the glory days of Pentax film cameras.
The reality is newer and younger users prefer zooms to prime lenses and the convenience of AF to manual focus. These are the same people who may have had a limited or even never used a 35mm film camera. These are also the people who got the means and the propensity to go out and buy. Don't indulge in wishful thinking... Pentax will not go back to making a manual focus only lens... because pandering to older users who want a manual focus lenses is a shrinking demographic. Most old foggies give up manual focusing and migrate to AF eventually due to their deteriorating eyesight and the convenience of AF. That's certainly the case with a lot of long time shooter friends.

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Just how many Pentax users would actually buy these lenses?
Most older Pentax users fall into the frugal or poor as a church mouse demographic who hark on the glory days of Pentax film cameras.
The reality is newer and younger users prefer zooms to prime lenses and the convenience of AF to manual focus. These are the same people who may have had a limited or even never used a 35mm film camera. These are also the people who got the means and the propensity to go out and buy. Don't indulge in wishful thinking... Pentax will not go back to making a manual focus only lens... because pandering to older users who want a manual focus lenses is a shrinking demographic. Most old foggies give up manual focusing and migrate to AF eventually due to their deteriorating eyesight and the convenience of AF. That's certainly the case with a lot of long time shooter friends.
Actually, its the young videography crowd that are into those manual focus lenses. But if Pentax wants to work real hard and get back into the counters of Wal-fart and K-mart with milliions of plasti-mount lenses, they are still going to have to beat out Canikon because they out produce Pentax in the "cheap" arena as well. The profit margin cant be that great on the DA 35/2.4 al and those D AL zooms and it has to tie up their assembly lines as much as it would to do a batch of A 50/1.2 or FA 35/2 or FA 20-35/4 which Pentax would never do . . . oh wait, they did.

Edit: BTW, some of those old foggies you are talking about are running around with multiple dSLR bodies including the K-5. There are also some film only guys that have K glass that the price rivals that of the FA series.

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