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HawaiianOnline · 07-02-2011, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by RioRico

I mentioned in another thread that Ricoh didn't buy Pentax in order to shut them down, but to make money by exploiting Rentax's reputation. The statement on Ricoh's site specifically identified this goal: expand the lens line. IMHO the easiest way to make money there is with reincarnated / legacy lenses, requiring production setup but no R&D. Then Ricoh just has to market them, eh? With adequate marketing, I think we'll see the blossoming of Pentax.

Wasn't leaded glass the reason for the stop in production for some of those lenses? Not sure if this is really the case, but I do remember some discussion indicating that it was leaded glass combined with low demand (at the time). I would think that there would be some R&D cost to find optical equivalents, not as much as developing an all new lens, but some cost. I am not sure how much it would be, but Ricoh seems to have much deeper pockets than Hoya.

EDIT: That said, I would love to see the return of the 600 f4 or an FA or DFA version of the 400 f2.8. It would be great for surf photography. Hopefully Ricoh realizes that one of the things they need to address is a better upgrade path via higher spec "pro" type bodies, more reliable flash options, and a more complete lens line.

Last edited by HawaiianOnline; 07-02-2011 at 11:40 AM. Reason: Did not want to DP.

Ubuntu_user · 07-03-2011, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by RioRico

I mentioned in another thread that Ricoh didn't buy Pentax in order to shut them down, but to make money by exploiting Rentax's reputation. The statement on Ricoh's site specifically identified this goal: expand the lens line. IMHO the easiest way to make money there is with reincarnated / legacy lenses, requiring production setup but no R&D. Then Ricoh just has to market them, eh? With adequate marketing, I think we'll see the blossoming of Pentax.

Yes, yes! Let's see it happen!!!

ogl · 07-10-2011, 06:44 AM

After news about Ricoh...I've got an answer for my question.

No new lenses - because Hoya had no deep interest in Pentax Imaging.

ogl · 07-10-2011, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by blackcloudbrew

Or the two for the 645D.

Yes. But it's another history and another optical designers.

ogl · 07-10-2011, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

OGL again like to complaint.
Earthquake could be a reason ??

I'm right again...I'm pity.

RonHendriks1966 · 07-10-2011, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by ogl

After news about Ricoh...I've got an answer for my question.

No new lenses - because Hoya had no deep interest in Pentax Imaging.

Well Hoya just put in limited sources, and bringing out 645D and upgrading camera-line was a good thing.

Ricoh should just put some improvements into K-5(super, new electronics and AF-module with trecking AF) and concentrate on lenses the coming year.

ogl · 07-11-2011, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

Well Hoya just put in limited sources, and bringing out 645D and upgrading camera-line was a good thing.

Ricoh should just put some improvements into K-5(super, new electronics and AF-module with trecking AF) and concentrate on lenses the coming year.

I hope...I hope...

**7samurai** · 07-11-2011, 01:09 PM

I agree. A upgraded K-5 or K-3 and more lenses. Build upon the success of the K-5 and K-r (including the colors)

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07-02-2011, 11:37 AM	#46
HawaiianOnline Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 613	Originally posted by RioRico I mentioned in another thread that Ricoh didn't buy Pentax in order to shut them down, but to make money by exploiting Rentax's reputation. The statement on Ricoh's site specifically identified this goal: expand the lens line. IMHO the easiest way to make money there is with reincarnated / legacy lenses, requiring production setup but no R&D. Then Ricoh just has to market them, eh? With adequate marketing, I think we'll see the blossoming of Pentax. Wasn't leaded glass the reason for the stop in production for some of those lenses? Not sure if this is really the case, but I do remember some discussion indicating that it was leaded glass combined with low demand (at the time). I would think that there would be some R&D cost to find optical equivalents, not as much as developing an all new lens, but some cost. I am not sure how much it would be, but Ricoh seems to have much deeper pockets than Hoya. EDIT: That said, I would love to see the return of the 600 f4 or an FA or DFA version of the 400 f2.8. It would be great for surf photography. Hopefully Ricoh realizes that one of the things they need to address is a better upgrade path via higher spec "pro" type bodies, more reliable flash options, and a more complete lens line. Last edited by HawaiianOnline; 07-02-2011 at 11:40 AM. Reason: Did not want to DP.

07-03-2011, 10:39 AM	#47
Ubuntu_user Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,545	Originally posted by RioRico I mentioned in another thread that Ricoh didn't buy Pentax in order to shut them down, but to make money by exploiting Rentax's reputation. The statement on Ricoh's site specifically identified this goal: expand the lens line. IMHO the easiest way to make money there is with reincarnated / legacy lenses, requiring production setup but no R&D. Then Ricoh just has to market them, eh? With adequate marketing, I think we'll see the blossoming of Pentax. Yes, yes! Let's see it happen!!!

07-10-2011, 06:44 AM	#48
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	After news about Ricoh...I've got an answer for my question. No new lenses - because Hoya had no deep interest in Pentax Imaging.

07-10-2011, 06:47 AM	#49
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by blackcloudbrew Or the two for the 645D. Yes. But it's another history and another optical designers.

07-10-2011, 06:48 AM	#50
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by bobmaxja OGL again like to complaint. Earthquake could be a reason ?? I'm right again...I'm pity.

07-10-2011, 01:43 PM	#51
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by ogl After news about Ricoh...I've got an answer for my question. No new lenses - because Hoya had no deep interest in Pentax Imaging. Well Hoya just put in limited sources, and bringing out 645D and upgrading camera-line was a good thing. Ricoh should just put some improvements into K-5(super, new electronics and AF-module with trecking AF) and concentrate on lenses the coming year.

07-11-2011, 07:03 AM	#52
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 Well Hoya just put in limited sources, and bringing out 645D and upgrading camera-line was a good thing. Ricoh should just put some improvements into K-5(super, new electronics and AF-module with trecking AF) and concentrate on lenses the coming year. I hope...I hope...

07-11-2011, 01:09 PM	#53
7samurai Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 474	I agree. A upgraded K-5 or K-3 and more lenses. Build upon the success of the K-5 and K-r (including the colors)

Where are new lenses, HOYA?

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