Anyone looking for a Voigt 125?

**Digitalis** · 08-12-2011, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by DanielT74

A question: why would people pay more for it than for the A*200/4 macro? The A*200/4 opens up more possibilities, like shooting more distant objects, flash work, etc. IQ-wise is Voigt any better? Hard to believe...

the Voigtlander 125mm f/2.5 is a truly superlative lens, and it has become a bit of a modern "cult" Lens. The price is high because of it's remarkable optical characteristics.Prices for the FA*200mm f/4 ED Macro go even higher.

stanic · 08-12-2011, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

The price is high because of it's remarkable optical characteristics.

could this be one of the rare difraction limited lenses?

**G_Money** · 08-12-2011, 03:56 AM

Supply and demand. Since the lens is out of production, there is no supply so the price is accordingly high. Even if there were a new SL II version announced, there's no guarantee that they'd even make it in a K-mount. Cosina has stopped production for all its K-mount lenses.

**Digitalis** · 08-12-2011, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by stanic

could this be one of the rare difraction limited lenses?

From what I have seen of a 24Mp D3X I hired a few weeks ago, It's performance is very close the diffraction limit at f/4 and it most likely hits it at f/5.6~f/8

it is a rare thing indeed to find a diffraction limited lens for 35mm format - at least for an SLR.

there are a few lenses from pentax that get close to the diffraction limit the FA*200mm f/4 ED macro is a good candidate.
several decades ago Olympus made some macro lenses that were reported to reach the diffraction limit though these were fixed focus macro lenses.
Nikon and Canon's line super-telephoto lenses perform very close to the diffraction limit the Nikkor AF-S 200mm f/2G ED [IF] VR is a good candidate.
I would say more or less half of Leica lenses made in the last thirty years can get very close to the diffraction limit.

but in the end with such high resolution lenses we almost never see their fullest potential because there are so many variables in the big wide world that get in the way, the focus can be off, the lens can be misaligned,camera shake,mirror shock,shutter bounce vibrations of all forms*.

*I had a holography teacher who worked a several miles away from a train station, and many of his early attempts at producing holograms at home failed to cut a long story short: he had to fork over thousands of dollars for an air cushioned table that would eliminate the vibrations from the trains!

Last edited by Digitalis; 08-12-2011 at 04:30 AM.

stanic · 08-12-2011, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

*I had a holography teacher who worked a several miles away from a train station, and many of his early attempts at producing holograms at home failed to cut a long story short: he had to fork over thousands of dollars for an air cushioned table that would eliminate the vibrations from the trains!

thanks
oh boy...to eliminate external factors is really near impossible without great investments

**G_Money** · 08-15-2011, 10:00 AM

And the first one goes for $2,000. My estimate was for $1,700. Kudos to the seller, and to the buyer I suppose.

**G_Money** · 08-20-2011, 10:34 AM

And the second one falls for $2,150.

**dcmsox2004** · 08-20-2011, 10:58 AM

got me scratchin' my bald dome.... i'd love (kill) for the 125, but not for 2150 bucks... as an amateur shooter... it would beyond lba... it'd be outright lens lunacy...
when is too much, TOO much?? hope these new 125 owners get a lotta mileage to make these beauties a worthwhile investment....
i guess i should've held on to my voigt 180.... ugh.... dave m

RonHendriks1966 · 08-20-2011, 11:03 AM

Plain nuts.

DanielT74 · 08-20-2011, 12:58 PM

I thought they used to sell new for $400-500. Has there ever been another lens that had more than quadrupled in price before ?

**Digitalis** · 08-20-2011, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by DanielT74

Has there ever been another lens that had more than quadrupled in price before ?

ohh there certainly has, I recall a Leica M-Noctilux 50mm f/1.2 ASPH "classic" in mint condition being sold for almost ten times its original price.

selar · 08-21-2011, 05:59 PM

I can't believe I had the opportunity to buy these new for 700 odd bucks new and passed it up!

**ManuH** · 08-21-2011, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by selar

I can't believe I had the opportunity to buy these new for 700 odd bucks new and passed it up!

Yes, there are few lenses like that you just feel stupid to not buy when they were that cheap. I believe at one point the 125 was around 500-600$. With a bit of knowledge of the future we could have made a fortune buying all the stock and selling it 2 years late for 4x the price. Anyway, unless new stock is released at reasonable price, I pretty much gave up getting the Voigt 125. Same for the Pentax 200mm macro.

selar · 08-21-2011, 08:16 PM

I did get a Voigtlander APO Lanthar 180/4, how much does that go for nowadays?

RayGunn · 08-25-2011, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by dcmsox2004

when is too much, TOO much??

Right NOW. I can no longer afford to keep this lens.

And, to ronhendriks... It's worse than plain nuts. It's gotten ridiculous.

In my opinion, anyone wanting to purchase one should be required to have
"money to burn", LOL.

RayGunn

08-21-2011, 07:51 PM	#28
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	Originally posted by selar I can't believe I had the opportunity to buy these new for 700 odd bucks new and passed it up! Yes, there are few lenses like that you just feel stupid to not buy when they were that cheap. I believe at one point the 125 was around 500-600$. With a bit of knowledge of the future we could have made a fortune buying all the stock and selling it 2 years late for 4x the price. Anyway, unless new stock is released at reasonable price, I pretty much gave up getting the Voigt 125. Same for the Pentax 200mm macro. Last edited by ManuH; 08-25-2011 at 12:34 PM.

08-25-2011, 10:59 AM	#30
RayGunn Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 198	Voigt 125 - when is too much, TOO much?? Originally posted by dcmsox2004 when is too much, TOO much?? Right NOW. I can no longer afford to keep this lens. And, to ronhendriks... It's worse than plain nuts. It's gotten ridiculous. In my opinion, anyone wanting to purchase one should be required to have "money to burn", LOL. RayGunn

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08-12-2011, 12:08 AM	#16
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by DanielT74 A question: why would people pay more for it than for the A200/4 macro? The A200/4 opens up more possibilities, like shooting more distant objects, flash work, etc. IQ-wise is Voigt any better? Hard to believe... the Voigtlander 125mm f/2.5 is a truly superlative lens, and it has become a bit of a modern "cult" Lens. The price is high because of it's remarkable optical characteristics.Prices for the FA*200mm f/4 ED Macro go even higher.

08-12-2011, 03:48 AM	#17
stanic Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zakopane Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 389	Originally posted by Digitalis The price is high because of it's remarkable optical characteristics. could this be one of the rare difraction limited lenses?

08-12-2011, 03:56 AM	#18
G_Money Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 598	Supply and demand. Since the lens is out of production, there is no supply so the price is accordingly high. Even if there were a new SL II version announced, there's no guarantee that they'd even make it in a K-mount. Cosina has stopped production for all its K-mount lenses.

08-12-2011, 04:08 AM	#19
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by stanic could this be one of the rare difraction limited lenses? From what I have seen of a 24Mp D3X I hired a few weeks ago, It's performance is very close the diffraction limit at f/4 and it most likely hits it at f/5.6~f/8 it is a rare thing indeed to find a diffraction limited lens for 35mm format - at least for an SLR. there are a few lenses from pentax that get close to the diffraction limit the FA200mm f/4 ED macro is a good candidate. several decades ago Olympus made some macro lenses that were reported to reach the diffraction limit though these were fixed focus macro lenses. Nikon and Canon's line super-telephoto lenses perform very close to the diffraction limit the Nikkor AF-S 200mm f/2G ED [IF] VR is a good candidate. I would say more or less half of Leica lenses made in the last thirty years can get very close to the diffraction limit. but in the end with such high resolution lenses we almost never see their fullest potential because there are so many variables in the big wide world that get in the way, the focus can be off, the lens can be misaligned,camera shake,mirror shock,shutter bounce vibrations of all forms. I had a holography teacher who worked a several miles away from a train station, and many of his early attempts at producing holograms at home failed to cut a long story short: he had to fork over thousands of dollars for an air cushioned table that would eliminate the vibrations from the trains! Last edited by Digitalis; 08-12-2011 at 04:30 AM.*

08-12-2011, 06:45 AM	#20
stanic Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zakopane Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 389	Originally posted by Digitalis *I had a holography teacher who worked a several miles away from a train station, and many of his early attempts at producing holograms at home failed to cut a long story short: he had to fork over thousands of dollars for an air cushioned table that would eliminate the vibrations from the trains! thanks oh boy...to eliminate external factors is really near impossible without great investments

08-15-2011, 10:00 AM	#21
G_Money Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 598	And the first one goes for $2,000. My estimate was for $1,700. Kudos to the seller, and to the buyer I suppose.

08-20-2011, 10:34 AM	#22
G_Money Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 598	And the second one falls for $2,150.

08-20-2011, 10:58 AM	#23
dcmsox2004 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rhode island Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,522	got me scratchin' my bald dome.... i'd love (kill) for the 125, but not for 2150 bucks... as an amateur shooter... it would beyond lba... it'd be outright lens lunacy... when is too much, TOO much?? hope these new 125 owners get a lotta mileage to make these beauties a worthwhile investment.... i guess i should've held on to my voigt 180.... ugh.... dave m

08-20-2011, 11:03 AM	#24
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Plain nuts.

08-20-2011, 12:58 PM	#25
DanielT74 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,377	I thought they used to sell new for $400-500. Has there ever been another lens that had more than quadrupled in price before ?

08-20-2011, 07:43 PM	#26
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by DanielT74 Has there ever been another lens that had more than quadrupled in price before ? ohh there certainly has, I recall a Leica M-Noctilux 50mm f/1.2 ASPH "classic" in mint condition being sold for almost ten times its original price.

08-21-2011, 05:59 PM	#27
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042	I can't believe I had the opportunity to buy these new for 700 odd bucks new and passed it up!

08-21-2011, 08:16 PM	#29
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042	I did get a Voigtlander APO Lanthar 180/4, how much does that go for nowadays?