Is this legal?

**Pepe Guitarra** · 08-16-2011, 04:21 PM

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Is it legal to pay this much for such a lens? Does Pentax have one like this?

Leica Noctilux 50mm F/1.0 M* M9 M8 M7 M6 MINT! NR! .99 | eBay

frank · 08-17-2011, 02:45 AM

Yeah, it's perfectly legal, as long as it's not my money ...

**Rondec** · 08-17-2011, 03:20 AM

Leica owners are a special breed. When they come to Pentax, they think that all the lenses are cheap, even ones like the FA 31.

Clavius · 08-17-2011, 03:40 AM

That price is INSANE. For that price I would expect the lense to be able to shoot through walls.

maltfalc · 08-17-2011, 03:50 AM - **1 Like**

it can do better than shoot through walls. it has "the ability to look deeper than the surface; it goes beyond intellect, straight to the soul of your subject matter". :P

Blue · 08-17-2011, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

That price is INSANE. For that price I would expect the lense to be able to shoot through walls.

It can take a picture in the dark.

Edit: The $105 shipping is total B.S.

reeftool · 08-17-2011, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by Blue

It can take a picture in the dark.

Edit: The $105 shipping is total B.S.

What would the insurance be on a declared value of of over 7 grand? I think that's the reason for the high price.

**LaurenOE** · 08-17-2011, 08:05 AM

If the lens is built to a "blueprint" standard, and is perfect in all tolerances, is assembled by hand using an expensive manufacturing technique or some other expensive thing then it is possible to be *worth* that kind of money.

I could never justify something like that, but I can understand the price of perfection.

Blue · 08-17-2011, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by reeftool

What would the insurance be on a declared value of of over 7 grand? I think that's the reason for the high price.

Maybe. FedEx 2 day shipping. I have a feeling the insurance is separate. An $8000 lens would be worth a plane ride to pick up.

Cannikin · 08-17-2011, 08:17 AM

If you think that's bad, look up the Leica Noctilux f/0.95.

liukaitc · 08-17-2011, 08:46 AM

Wow..rich people are always so rich....

JeffJS · 08-17-2011, 09:34 AM

*EX++* Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/1 E60+hood black 50/F1.0 | eBay

If you want one, there's one for $100 less and free shipping

Is it M or is it R versions that are convertible? At that price I'll never know the apparent joy of owning one so it really doesn't matter.

eddie1960 · 08-17-2011, 10:34 AM

r are convertible Jeff (r series are SLR lenses. M are rangefinder lenses too short on the registration, though usable on the new GXR module. But hell if you can afford a Noctilux (the .95 or the 1.0) then you can afford an M9 and probably an M7 as a film back up

Even the 50 1.4 runs 4 grand
the 0.95 noctilux goes for 10 grand up here
I've tried a bunch of different Leica gear at points and it is amazing, but I think it's also wildly overpriced (primarily because i can't afford it

)

Blue · 08-17-2011, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

r are convertible Jeff (r series are SLR lenses. M are rangefinder lenses too short on the registration, though usable on the new GXR module. But hell if you can afford a Noctilux (the .95 or the 1.0) then you can afford an M9 and probably an M7 as a film back up

Even the 50 1.4 runs 4 grand
the 0.95 noctilux goes for 10 grand up here
I've tried a bunch of different Leica gear at points and it is amazing, but I think it's also wildly overpriced (primarily because i can't afford it

)

I'll be honest, if I had Leno money . . . I'd have an M9 and the 50/1.4 as my P&S in lieu of the e-p1.

eddie1960 · 08-17-2011, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Blue

I'll be honest, if I had Leno money . . . I'd have an M9 and the 50/1.4 as my P&S in lieu of the e-p1.

I'd have the same and a 21 1.4 as well (maybe a 24 1.4 too

)

likely if i could afford it they would be my daily shooters with DSLR relegated to specific purposes (High iso concert work for instance) and a 645D for the landscape stuff
hell we can all dream

08-16-2011, 04:21 PM	#1
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08-17-2011, 03:40 AM	#4
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	That price is INSANE. For that price I would expect the lense to be able to shoot through walls.

08-17-2011, 03:50 AM - 1 Like	#5
maltfalc Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Winnipeg Photos: Albums Posts: 396	it can do better than shoot through walls. it has "the ability to look deeper than the surface; it goes beyond intellect, straight to the soul of your subject matter". :P

08-17-2011, 07:52 AM	#6
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Clavius That price is INSANE. For that price I would expect the lense to be able to shoot through walls. It can take a picture in the dark. Edit: The $105 shipping is total B.S.

08-17-2011, 08:02 AM	#7
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,554	Originally posted by Blue It can take a picture in the dark. Edit: The $105 shipping is total B.S. What would the insurance be on a declared value of of over 7 grand? I think that's the reason for the high price.

08-17-2011, 08:05 AM	#8
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	If the lens is built to a "blueprint" standard, and is perfect in all tolerances, is assembled by hand using an expensive manufacturing technique or some other expensive thing then it is possible to be worth that kind of money. I could never justify something like that, but I can understand the price of perfection.

08-17-2011, 08:10 AM	#9
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by reeftool What would the insurance be on a declared value of of over 7 grand? I think that's the reason for the high price. Maybe. FedEx 2 day shipping. I have a feeling the insurance is separate. An $8000 lens would be worth a plane ride to pick up.

08-17-2011, 08:17 AM	#10
Cannikin Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SW Washington Posts: 833	If you think that's bad, look up the Leica Noctilux f/0.95.

08-17-2011, 08:46 AM	#11
liukaitc Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 1,008	Wow..rich people are always so rich....

08-17-2011, 09:34 AM	#12
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	EX++ Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/1 E60+hood black 50/F1.0 \| eBay If you want one, there's one for $100 less and free shipping Is it M or is it R versions that are convertible? At that price I'll never know the apparent joy of owning one so it really doesn't matter.

08-17-2011, 10:34 AM	#13
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	r are convertible Jeff (r series are SLR lenses. M are rangefinder lenses too short on the registration, though usable on the new GXR module. But hell if you can afford a Noctilux (the .95 or the 1.0) then you can afford an M9 and probably an M7 as a film back up Even the 50 1.4 runs 4 grand the 0.95 noctilux goes for 10 grand up here I've tried a bunch of different Leica gear at points and it is amazing, but I think it's also wildly overpriced (primarily because i can't afford it )

08-17-2011, 10:41 AM	#14
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by eddie1960 r are convertible Jeff (r series are SLR lenses. M are rangefinder lenses too short on the registration, though usable on the new GXR module. But hell if you can afford a Noctilux (the .95 or the 1.0) then you can afford an M9 and probably an M7 as a film back up Even the 50 1.4 runs 4 grand the 0.95 noctilux goes for 10 grand up here I've tried a bunch of different Leica gear at points and it is amazing, but I think it's also wildly overpriced (primarily because i can't afford it ) I'll be honest, if I had Leno money . . . I'd have an M9 and the 50/1.4 as my P&S in lieu of the e-p1.

08-17-2011, 10:53 AM	#15
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Blue I'll be honest, if I had Leno money . . . I'd have an M9 and the 50/1.4 as my P&S in lieu of the e-p1. I'd have the same and a 21 1.4 as well (maybe a 24 1.4 too ) likely if i could afford it they would be my daily shooters with DSLR relegated to specific purposes (High iso concert work for instance) and a 645D for the landscape stuff hell we can all dream