Originally posted by SouthShoreRob My fellow Pentaxians,
I apologize in advance if this sounds like carping, but well, I do need to carp. If you, as I am, are in the market for a fast-for-sports F2.8 telephoto zoom to fit your digital Pentax, then you'll probably understand fully and completely what I'm about to say. After a solid month (maybe two now) of searching, I've come to the realization that unless I pony up 2K to purchase a used FA* 80-200 F2.8 from the Japanese eBay store (2 copies listed as we speak), I am just not going to get my hands on "pro" quality, auto focus glass.
The next best option you ask? Well that of course would be Sigma's well reviewed 70-200 F2.8. You know the one that can't be had anywhere new right now and is only occasionally offered up on eBay or elsewhere. For what it's worth, the last eBay seller I saw to post one had 0 feedback and the one currently FS here in the forum is looking to sell US only. Aargh.
Oh and as for putting out 2K for that aforementioned FA* lense from another perspective?
2K would buy me both a new 30D and a used (excellent) 70-200 F2.8L ultrasonic.
2K would buy me both a new D80 and a new 80-200 F2.8 D MACRO ED.
Not that I want this discussion to turn into a brand war; far from it. I post this information just for general comparison sake. Personally, I have only used Pentax SLR products. I love my K10D and all of it's wonderful features. That said, someone - ANYONE - at Pentax has to get their act together and do something for us.
*end rant*
As an aside, I would hate to just be an anonymous complainer, so if anyone can direct me to the necessary Pentax e-mail addresses, I'll gladly take my rant to them directly and not bore this excellent forum any longer.
Thanks,
Rob
Well, you missed a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 with a $900 Buy-It-Now on Ebay which is running right now...
It is hardly the fault of Pentax that Tamron or Sigma are not yet offering certain products in the K mount, is it?
To reiterate, the 50-135 f2.8 is what Pentax has designed to replace the old 80-200 f2.8. I understand that this is not exactly what you are looking for, but none of this should be a surprise to anyone buying into Pentax that did even a tiny bit of homework before diving into the pool:
It has been pretty clear for years that the non-Pentax suppliers were not making anything new in the K mount (until the success of the K10D drove them to recently announce that they would soon do so). These manufacturers even responded to past emails asking for K mount lenses with the fact that they were not planning on making any, but regradless, a simple review of the Tamron/Sigma/Tokina web site product listings would have shown you that they had no current products for Pentax in the category you are looking for.
The Pentax lens roadmap has been out for years now, and the longer teles have always been near the end of the timeline (and for good business reasons).
There have never been many pro Pentax 35mm shooters, and very few shooting sports, so that means that the older pro Pentax glass never sold in anywhere near the quantities that the Canon and Nikon lenses did, so therefore the supply of used Pentax (or other brand) lenses in this category is relatively small. Given the laws of supply and demand, that means when lenses do show up used, they will fetch a pretty high price at least until Pentax and Sigma and whoever roll out the new tele zooms. No surprise here.
While prices have gone up, in some cases to ridiculous levels, with some patience, you can find what you need and not pay a stupid price for it.
In the not so distant past I have purchased the following lenses at decent prices, all used:
Sigma 70-200 F2.8
Sigma 135-400 f4-5.6
Tamron 28-70 f2.8
+ several more, but all at pretty good prices.
Ebay has become the worst place for any sort of bargain, and has even driven up prices of items not listed there as everyone does a search before selling anything these days, proviong the laws of supply and demand once again.
I have purchased some of these lenses from Craigslist and others from used camera sites I have discovered over the years.
So, you are correct that Pentax has placed the lowest priority on producing the longer teles, but I would be willing to bet that these lenses will not sell even 50% as many units as the shorter zooms and primes (likely much less than that), so if you were having to allocate scarce design and manufacturing resources, what decision would you make?
I do not mean to be harsh, but at the end of the day, you are a victim of your own decision to buy into the Pentax system needing something that you should have known was not widely available and that was not going to be available from Pentax or anyone else for some unspecified time in the future.
Given that, you should re-direct that email you were going to write to Pentax to yourself...
Ray