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09-20-2011, 06:48 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Shamwow Quote
The Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8 might suit your needs.

This is a great lens with a large aperture.
It has a very close minimum focussing distance.

While expensive new, I often see this lens selling used for way less than it should.

The only drawback is its size. It is a huge piece of glass.
I was wondering if anybody would suggest the DA14, or more precisely, why nobody had suggested the DA14 until now.

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I'm not sure how much cheaper the DA14 is to the DA15, but from every thread I've read regarding the two, the DA15 comes out an uncontested winner. Essentially, I myself am looking for an UWA, and was turned off from the DA14 when looking at the DA15.
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What, no love (yet) for the 16mm f/4 attached to the DA16-45? That's close enough for me, although some day it won't be.
The 16-45 was my starter as the kit lens when the k20d was released. I love it for landscapes....from 20mm and up At 16mm the distortion is pretty strong whereas the da15mm I never correct for distortion as its so good to begin with. I find it hard to compare the two on any kind of equal footing.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jimr-pdx Quote
What, no love (yet) for the 16mm f/4 attached to the DA16-45?
Another vote for this from me, too (plus take two steps backwards!).

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DA 18-55, DA 16-45, and FA-J 18-35.

The latter you can use on film too
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QuoteOriginally posted by JinDesu Quote
I'm not sure how much cheaper the DA14 is to the DA15, but from every thread I've read regarding the two, the DA15 comes out an uncontested winner. Essentially, I myself am looking for an UWA, and was turned off from the DA14 when looking at the DA15.
I strongly disagree. The DA14 is a unique gem in the Pentax lineup. Such a low price for a large aperture UWA is remarkable. Similar CaNikon offerings make the FA31 look inexpensive.

The DA14 has a beautiful rendering that can't be measured by test charts and graphs.
It's not just a landscape lens, it's also great for candids, street photography, etc.

It's a very versatile lens that is a true bargain.

That being said, the DA 16-45 is a very nice lens that sells cheaply also. Not in the same class as the DA14, but still a nice lens. You can't go wrong with either.
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I love my DA14 but i lost my CPL recently. Perhaps it is important to note that the DA14 uses 77mm thread whereas the DA15 is only a smallish 49mm. That makes a lot of difference in the price of filters that you will be getting. An important consideration I reckon if u are worried about cost.
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There is no small and wide alternative to the DA15 except the DA21.
The DA15 is in a league of its own.

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Have you considered the Samyang 14mm/2.8? Not exactly small, but well regarded in terms of sharpness.
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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
The DA15 is in a league of its own.
That's true.

It makes the Pentax dSLR line compare well against mirrorless those real strength are small wide angle lenses.

E.g., compare a K-x plus DA15/4 vs. a NEX5 plus E16/2.8 pancake.

Ok, the NEX is smaller and cheaper, but the difference is much smaller than with any other SLR system. And according to photozone.de, the NEX pancake has catastrophic corner performance (receives only 1.5/5 stars).

The only other alternative is µFT with the Zuiko 12mm f/2.0. It performs similiar to the DA15 with satisfactory corners. The Lumix G 7-14mm f/4 is a better lens, but heavier than the DA15 and rather pricey.

So, in essence, the pure existance of the Pentax DA15 makes the Pentax system compete rather favorably vs. the current mirrorless alternatives.


DA15 in its own league? Yes, definitely!
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How about the 15mm Sigma EX fisheye? I haven't seen it used that often either.
At least it gets good reviews.

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How about the 15mm Sigma EX fisheye? I haven't seen it used that often either.
The OP excluded fisheyes.

However, fisheyes are easier to construct and typically have a good optical performance.
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My vote would be for picking up a used 16-45mm as well - with some patience it can be had for around $220-235 shipped. It is great, and while you save for the 15mm it will be a very useful lens to have in your bag. When you've saved the difference, sell the 16-45mm (at little to no loss) and use the funds to pick up the 15mm. As has been repeated above, it really is in a league of its own, worth every penny - easily my favorite lens by a wide margin!

I personally don't think the 14mm lenses suggested above are going to be great alternatives either - they are quite large in size (not to mention the Pentax is about the same price as the 15mm already), about the same size as the 16-45 and probably even heavier due to more glass (being f2.8 lenses). It is an intensely personal choice, buying a lens! Hope everyone has been helpful!
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how about 10-17?i have one with scratched hood hole...
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QuoteOriginally posted by raider Quote
I love my DA14 but i lost my CPL recently. Perhaps it is important to note that the DA14 uses 77mm thread whereas the DA15 is only a smallish 49mm. That makes a lot of difference in the price of filters that you will be getting. An important consideration I reckon if u are worried about cost.
Not only is the cost difference in the filters substantial but there's a better chance that you can commonize the 49mm filters with other lenses (esp primes). I'm completely locked into 49mm filter diamters partly for this reason (a couple of odd 52mm threads). The other reason of course is the small size of the usually slower primes.

but there shouldn't be any doubt that the DA14 is a great lens though. I'm just not willing to put up with the disadvantages.
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