Lens diff. between black and silver

tws71669 · 10-05-2011, 03:43 AM

Maybe I'm just being stupid here but I'm trying to tell the difference between the Pentax 40mm f2,8 limited in black for 390$ and the same lens limited in silver for 525$. Besides the obvious color and price difference is there any difference in quality? If I can spend 135$ less for the black version then I will. I just don't want to buy a lesser quality lens.
Thanks!

twitch · 10-05-2011, 03:57 AM

No difference in quality between them

causey · 10-05-2011, 05:01 AM

they are the same lens. the difference in cost reflects a 'fashion fee.'

Aillas · 10-05-2011, 05:28 AM

I'm not sure about the black version, but all the silver one (31, 43, 77) were manufactured in Japan.
All the new one are manufactured in Vietnam.

I'm not a specialist, but some people claimed the Japan version have a better build quality than the Vietnam one.

séamuis · 10-05-2011, 06:27 AM

Originally posted by Aillas

I'm not sure about the black version, but all the silver one (31, 43, 77) were manufactured in Japan.
All the new one are manufactured in Vietnam.

I'm not a specialist, but some people claimed the Japan version have a better build quality than the Vietnam one.

the FA limiteds have always been available in both silver and black, or at least they used to be, and there was no price difference between them. (someone correct me if I’m wrong there) there was never a difference between the place of assembly between the silver and black FA limiteds. they were all made in Japan, and then they were all switched to being assembled in Viet Nam. the difference here is that the DA limiteds were only ever offered in black. the silver is a recent addition, thus is being sold as a kind of ’special version’ and thus a higher price. I’m not sure of any differences in availability between the black and silver DA’s though.

as for the differences in quality, between the FA limiteds, I have never seen any hard evidence to suggest that, and have even seen evidence of late model made in japan versions exhibiting a lot of the same issues people were claiming of assembled in Viet Nam versions. so I say believe what you’d ike, but I think it does the community no good to constantly keep that attached to the FA limiteds, without any real world proof that you’d be statistically better off with a made in Japan version. its this communities constant crying over that very thing that has driven up the price more of FA limiteds and affected the overall reputation, and helping to cripple lens sales for pentax to I’m certain a calculable degree.

frank · 10-05-2011, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by Aillas

I'm not sure about the black version, but all the silver one (31, 43, 77) were manufactured in Japan.
All the new one are manufactured in Vietnam.

I'm not a specialist, but some people claimed the Japan version have a better build quality than the Vietnam one.

As séamuis said above, all new FA limiteds (black or silver ones) are assembled in Vietnam now. All earlier ones were made in Japan..

RonHendriks1966 · 10-05-2011, 08:42 AM - **2 Likes**

To make it more easy to understand:

It's like Silver

versus black:

Comprende?

axl · 10-05-2011, 08:55 AM

As far as I was told by retailer, the silver DA ltds are manufactured in limited quantities. So that's why they are more expensive, just like silver K-7, K-5 and K20D or K10GP.
F.e, in UK it's very hard if not impossible now to get silver 21. The good stockists have only 40 and 70 left...

s.randy · 10-05-2011, 09:02 AM

Silly people paying more for the color

I'd rather have black any day....silver lens on a black body

frank · 10-05-2011, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by s.randy

Silly people paying more for the color

I'd rather have black any day....silver lens on a black body

I guess there are too many silly people here, me included

You can get a silver body to match the silver lens, then you'd have to pay even more, and be even sillier

RioRico · 10-05-2011, 09:30 AM

I want a metalflake candy-apple red version. I'll even pay and extra US$5 for it.

**jerryleejr** · 10-05-2011, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

To make it more easy to understand:

It's like Silver

versus black:

Comprende?

I think I need more examples

JJ

bdery · 10-05-2011, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by axl

the silver DA ltds are manufactured in limited quantities

Indeed, the silver is some sort of collectible. Nothing more.

leeak · 10-05-2011, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

To make it more easy to understand:

It's like Silver

versus black:

Comprende?

Hmmm ... The silver one is all wet ... does ithat mean that the silver limiteds has WR?

**Just1MoreDave** · 10-05-2011, 12:26 PM

Just overexpose the black; it'll look like silver.

10-05-2011, 03:43 AM	#1
tws71669 Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 3	Lens diff. between black and silver Maybe I'm just being stupid here but I'm trying to tell the difference between the Pentax 40mm f2,8 limited in black for 390$ and the same lens limited in silver for 525$. Besides the obvious color and price difference is there any difference in quality? If I can spend 135$ less for the black version then I will. I just don't want to buy a lesser quality lens. Thanks!

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twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	No difference in quality between them

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causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	they are the same lens. the difference in cost reflects a 'fashion fee.'

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Aillas New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Montpellier Posts: 4	I'm not sure about the black version, but all the silver one (31, 43, 77) were manufactured in Japan. All the new one are manufactured in Vietnam. I'm not a specialist, but some people claimed the Japan version have a better build quality than the Vietnam one.

10-05-2011, 06:27 AM	#5
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Originally posted by Aillas I'm not sure about the black version, but all the silver one (31, 43, 77) were manufactured in Japan. All the new one are manufactured in Vietnam. I'm not a specialist, but some people claimed the Japan version have a better build quality than the Vietnam one. the FA limiteds have always been available in both silver and black, or at least they used to be, and there was no price difference between them. (someone correct me if I’m wrong there) there was never a difference between the place of assembly between the silver and black FA limiteds. they were all made in Japan, and then they were all switched to being assembled in Viet Nam. the difference here is that the DA limiteds were only ever offered in black. the silver is a recent addition, thus is being sold as a kind of ’special version’ and thus a higher price. I’m not sure of any differences in availability between the black and silver DA’s though. as for the differences in quality, between the FA limiteds, I have never seen any hard evidence to suggest that, and have even seen evidence of late model made in japan versions exhibiting a lot of the same issues people were claiming of assembled in Viet Nam versions. so I say believe what you’d ike, but I think it does the community no good to constantly keep that attached to the FA limiteds, without any real world proof that you’d be statistically better off with a made in Japan version. its this communities constant crying over that very thing that has driven up the price more of FA limiteds and affected the overall reputation, and helping to cripple lens sales for pentax to I’m certain a calculable degree.

10-05-2011, 08:21 AM	#6
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by Aillas I'm not sure about the black version, but all the silver one (31, 43, 77) were manufactured in Japan. All the new one are manufactured in Vietnam. I'm not a specialist, but some people claimed the Japan version have a better build quality than the Vietnam one. As séamuis said above, all new FA limiteds (black or silver ones) are assembled in Vietnam now. All earlier ones were made in Japan..

10-05-2011, 08:42 AM - 2 Likes	#7
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	To make it more easy to understand: It's like Silver versus black: Comprende?

10-05-2011, 08:55 AM	#8
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	As far as I was told by retailer, the silver DA ltds are manufactured in limited quantities. So that's why they are more expensive, just like silver K-7, K-5 and K20D or K10GP. F.e, in UK it's very hard if not impossible now to get silver 21. The good stockists have only 40 and 70 left...

10-05-2011, 09:02 AM	#9
s.randy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 177	Silly people paying more for the color I'd rather have black any day....silver lens on a black body

10-05-2011, 09:08 AM	#10
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by s.randy Silly people paying more for the color I'd rather have black any day....silver lens on a black body I guess there are too many silly people here, me included You can get a silver body to match the silver lens, then you'd have to pay even more, and be even sillier

10-05-2011, 09:30 AM	#11
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	I want a metalflake candy-apple red version. I'll even pay and extra US$5 for it.

10-05-2011, 10:03 AM	#12
jerryleejr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: TN Posts: 774	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 To make it more easy to understand: It's like Silver versus black: Comprende? I think I need more examples JJ

10-05-2011, 11:15 AM	#13
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,362	Originally posted by axl the silver DA ltds are manufactured in limited quantities Indeed, the silver is some sort of collectible. Nothing more.

10-05-2011, 11:41 AM	#14
leeak Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 245	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 To make it more easy to understand: It's like Silver versus black: Comprende? Hmmm ... The silver one is all wet ... does ithat mean that the silver limiteds has WR?

10-05-2011, 12:26 PM	#15
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	Just overexpose the black; it'll look like silver.