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10-11-2011, 03:03 PM - 1 Like   #16
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Ditch the kit lens, and go with DA15/DA40/DA70 combo

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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
Ditch the kit lens, and go with DA15/DA40/DA70 combo
I'm only 2/3 of the way there.
10-11-2011, 06:29 PM   #18
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I'll try to restart this afresh: There is no 'best' lens kit. There are just the lenses we have, those we are comfortable with, those we know. The best lens is the lens we use; the worst is any we don't use. My suggestion is always to start with a superzoom like the DA18-250, shoot LOTS of pictures, note which focal lengths are used, and get fine primes at those points. Or, if money is no object, just get all the Ltd's.

But I'm a cheap bastard. I went for 1) coverage (10-24, 18-250, 170-500), then 2) faster lenses at 16-24-28-35-50-58-85-100-135-200mm, then 3) character, slower weirder lenses at 21-35-40-65-105-140-162mm. Yes, I depend on a few zooms for coverage: those mentioned, and 10-17, 35-70, 100-300. But what I carry are some of those, and some manual primes for speed or character.

You want wide? Sigma 8-16 (wider) or Tamron 10-24 (more versatile). You want portrait? Anything around 75-90mm that's f/3.5 or faster. You want macro? A 105mm enlarger lens on bellows will give the performance of a US$500 lens for 1/10th the cost. Hay, it's only money!
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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
Ditch the kit lens, and go with DA15/DA40/DA70 combo
That is exactly what I'm aiming for except I only have the DA40 right now

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I think RioRico offers some sound advice. I don't shoot wide angle too often, but I can say that if you like using a manual focus lens (which I do.), you might try the Pentax-A 35-105mm F3.5 zoom for a portrait lens. I think it's the perfect portrait lens & the image quality is excellent.

Pentax-A 35-105mm F3.5 Reviews - A Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

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Can't believe no one recommended 12-24 f4, ultra sharp starting at f4 and more flexible then DA15 (although DA15 has much superior flare control)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Azzy Quote
Can't believe no one recommended 12-24 f4, ultra sharp starting at f4 and more flexible then DA15 (although DA15 has much superior flare control)
It is also more expensive and hasn't been in stock for months. Still, I'd love to have one. There is one on the marketplace right now.
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I'm a big fan of light and compact quality lens (switched from Canon to Pentax for this reason).
On a k-x I'd get the DA15 and DA70 in a heartbeat.
I also believe that the kit lens is rather good at landscapes at smallest apertures.

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I have the k-x with a Tamron 28-75 f-2.8 combo. I absolutely love that lens. Crazy sharp and i use it for everything. That lens and the DAL 15. oh baby.
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IMHO one shouldn't bother with manual primes until you've filled your actual needs, unless said primes are either a fast 50, >=85mm/f2.8, or <$70. Manual primes imo are the spice of LBA, but they can't really replace current AF lenses as the bread and butter of photography for most applications.

Suggestions for wide:
price: Sigma 10-20mm
compactness + STARBURST!!: DA 15mm
versatility: Tamron 10-24mm

For portrait / telephoto it's more complicated....
Absolute Compactness: DA 70
Versatility (macro) - AF speed: Any Tamron / Sigma / Pentax 90-100mm macros
Compactness + price + versatility (shallow DOF) - versatility (subject / background compression worse than others): FA50
Price + versatility (range): DA 55-300
Absolute IQ - reliability (SDM!!): DA* 50-135mm
Absolute IQ: FA 77

Another option I'd consider if you love the 18-55 range, is the 17-50/2.8. Or as mentioned above a wide (10-20 or 15) + normal (28-75 / 40 / 50) combo is delicious!

My four 'lens' setup:
'wide' 10-20mm
'normal' DA 40 / FA 50 / Tamron 28-75
'extra' DA 10-17 / DA 50-200 / AF540
second body

For fun:
'wide - normal' Tak 24mm
'portrait' Tak 50mm
'tele' Tak 135mm / 200mm

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QuoteOriginally posted by PhotoClimber Quote
On a k-x I'd get the DA15 and DA70 in a heartbeat.
Those are very sharp and distinctive lenses. But how much would the 15 be used? It's FOV equivalent to 21mm on FF, and while I love my Tokina 21/3.8 on FF film cams, it's fairly specialized. I like the Tamron 10-24 on my K20D mostly for the versatility; I use it a 15mm, but only in specific circumstances: crowds in a street fair, that sorta thang.

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I also believe that the kit lens is rather good at landscapes at smallest apertures.
At f/22-f/40 we start to see diffraction fuzziness when the camera is immobilized. Diffraction limit is around f/9 so f/11-f/16 are best for 'podding. Handheld doesn't matter so much because even SR'd, the motion will swamp-out diffraction effects.

QuoteOriginally posted by GibbyTheMole Quote
I don't shoot wide angle too often, but I can say that if you like using a manual focus lens (which I do.), you might try the Pentax-A 35-105mm F3.5 zoom for a portrait lens. I think it's the perfect portrait lens & the image quality is excellent.
That is an ideal portrait range, from full-body to tight headshot. My favorite portraiture zoom is an old M42 Sears-Tokina 55-135/3.5 that cost me US$8 shipped -- a little long on APS-C but still quite usable. My favorite headshot setup is that Tokina at 75-85mm, f/3.5-f/4 -- I get best roundness of features around there, whether on APS-C or FF.

For portrait primes, although I have and use Jupiter-9 and Nikkor 85/2's (the J9 is a rather softer wide open) I prefer the very sharp Vivitar-LU 75/3.5 enlarger lens on tubes. That setup cost me all of US$15. Woo woo.

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