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10-13-2011, 10:31 AM   #16
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DA 15 + DA 21 = DA 16-45

DA 40 + DA 70 = Tamron 28-75.

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If you were talking about the FA LTDS you are pretty much out of luck. The only option there is to buy full-frame camera, but the quality of the lenses won't really be the same.

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If you want primes, the best I can think of is:

DA 15 --> Zenitar 16

DA 21 --> SMC 24mm f 2.8.

DA 40 --> Any 50mm f 1.7.

DA 70 --> A medium format 80mm f2.8 lens (used to be sold as kit lenses for MF cameras, can often be found for very little) and an adaptor to get it onto the k-mount.

That still isn't going to be super cheap, and will be all manual. I would go for the zooms, personally.

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I don't make/have much money, but I always get what I want in the end. Besides, the lenses I currently own have been with me for over 21 years and this hobby is cheap compared to my High-End Audio fetish where speaker cables can cost up to $30k for 2.5 meters..
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I think my set up is a fairly cheap compromise. If you are willing to shell out for the 15, which has no good substitute (other than the Zenitar, but since it's a fish eye you would need to de-fish every photo).

Not to toot my own horn, but I was in a somewhat similar situation. Except what I wanted was the * equivalent* of the (top two) FA ltds on a ASPc body:

1) DA 15 --> about 21 mm. Ok, not really a limited replacement, but I wanted a proper wide. The DA 16-45 would be a good alternative, but I wanted a small prime. This lens never ceases to make me smile, even if it isn't the most cost effective. You would not spend much less for an old 20mm lens for a full frame camera anyway.

2) Skipped the 31 because there is no good 21mm lens that is going to look anything like the 31 does on film. Also, I'm trying to keep this cheap, remember?

3) Viv Komine 28mm f2.8 replaces FA 43. Almost exact same FOV. Was not able to find the f2 version for a good price. Perfectly fine wide open, but nothing compared to the 43. I can live with it. A real gem for the price if you ask me.

4) FA 50 1.4 replaces FA 77. Once again, almost the exact same FOV. FA 77 is sharper at f2, but the 50 is pretty close and a nicer FOV on digital IMHO. The 77 has *got it*, but at approximately 1/3 the price, the FA 50 is by far the better deal.

These 3 lenses cover 99% of my needs: 15 + 28 for landscapes, indoors, action, and snapshottery, 50 for low light, portrait, action (lens speed), and artsy DOF stuff. I only have my other lenses because they were pretty good deals.

For you, perhaps a 21, 40, 70 feels more at home? In that case I would find an old 24 f2.8, 50, and medium format 80 (plus screwmount). You are going to have to find similar focal lengths - the likelihood that you will find identical ones are almost 0.
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I can't do all three at the same time.

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31,43 and sigma 85 is much more expensive than 21/40/70 combo

i had the 21/40/70 combo for a while and absolutely loved it
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QuoteOriginally posted by tabl10s Quote
If can't afford an all Limited prime collection, what third-party manufacturer would comparable?
Start saving or else learn how to wheel and deal with your lens deals because you will want / need to get an all Limited set eventually

3 Prime cheap setup?
K24 f/2.8, Super Takumar 35 f/3.5, K55 f/1.8, that would cover 36 to 83 in APS-C world.
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Rather than a DA 15 or 21, I have an A 16mm fisheye and a Sigma Super-wide 24/2.8. A Sigma 30mm f/1.4 might replace the FA 31, but instead I have a Sigma 28/1.8, which will also focus closely to 1:3 magnification and could thus be thought of as replacing the DA35 limited macro. The fast fifties as mentioned could replace the 40 or 43, but I find the slightly shorter focal lengths of the 40s to be much more useful for kids or people in environments. And for the 70 or 77, I have an old Tele-Vivitar 85/1.8 which is tricky to use, and a Tokina 90mm macro which might be my best lens. Ok, so I have a few limited lenses too, and a bad case of LBA needless to say. But to replace the FAs, you could do a lot worse than:
Sigma 28/1.8; DA 40; Tokina 90mm macro. Of course there are many other options too, as others have said.
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DA15, FA31, DA70 is IMHO the best bang for buck in Pentax limited land. Start with the 31. The FA31 is gods gift to k-mount shooters. Lens I own(ed) that I've left off that list are DA21, DA40, FA77.

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QuoteOriginally posted by twitch Quote
DA15, FA31, DA70 is IMHO the best bang for buck in Pentax limited land. Start with the 31. The FA31 is gods gift to k-mount shooters. Lens I own(ed) that I've left off that list are DA21, DA40, FA77.
One of these days the "FA77" in your signature is going to be a hyperlink instead of just text. How's that coming along? ;-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by tabl10s Quote
If You Can't Afford... an all Limited prime collection, what third-party manufacturer would comparable?
If you "can't afford an all Limited prime collection" then maybe that is a hint that you shouldn't be building a "prime collection" at all.
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QuoteOriginally posted by v5planet Quote
One of these days the "FA77" in your signature is going to be a hyperlink instead of just text. How's that coming along? ;-)
LOL.... ouch.

I tried a while back to add it as a hyperlink but it exceeded the charater limit for signatures on this forum, I'm not kidding, those linkies contain a lot of characters.

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The answer is,
If you cant afford it.......... save up!
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QuoteOriginally posted by twitch Quote
LOL.... ouch.

I tried a while back to add it as a hyperlink but it exceeded the charater limit for signatures on this forum, I'm not kidding, those linkies contain a lot of characters.
Haha, was not meant in an ouch sort of way. Definitely in an earnest, "I'm looking forward to when you feel proud enough of a body of images to put them forward as representative of the FA77" way.

RE: the OP's questions. In the long run, the correct answer I believe is TOUGEFC's -- you'll want the lenses, so you might as well save up for them. However, I really enjoyed using cheaper, old manual focus lenses in the meantime, which had almost nothing to apologize for optically and let me try out a lot of different focal lengths.

[edit] Also, twitch, had a thought... You can probably drop the "http://www." at the beginning of each of your link tags if you haven't tried that yet. Would give you back a bunch of characters.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tabl10s Quote
where speaker cables can cost up to $30k for 2.5 meters..
Dude, are you kidding me? If you're spending that much just on speaker cables, you must be able to consider a Limited prime collection! Imagine all the actual audio gear I'd be able to get with that kind of cash... hello custom in-ears!
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QuoteOriginally posted by miltllama Quote
Dude, are you kidding me? If you're spending that much just on speaker cables, you must be able to consider a Limited prime collection! Imagine all the actual audio gear I'd be able to get with that kind of cash... hello custom in-ears!
I don't think he meant he was spending that much on speaker cables, just that such products exist.
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