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11-08-2011, 01:26 PM   #1
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Ring Flash.. yeah or nay?

I will have a Viv Series 1 105mm Macro soon.

I have the opportunity to buy the ring flash that came with the lens. It's a Yuzo DC2814. Price is $75, condition EX+ It looks like this;

Vivitar Macro Lens & Point Ring Flash on Film Camera | eBay

Do I want a ring flash?
Do I want a Yuzo DC2814 ring flash?

You tell me, I don't know.

11-08-2011, 01:33 PM   #2
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The prize isn't to high and a ringflash is a nice thing for macro, micro and close-up.
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If you don't buy it for that price you will kick yourself again and again. Ring flash is easy to use with manual settings in macro, Very quick trial and error. I never use mine in auto.
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Ringflash is essential for some close work. Cheap ringflash is wonderful. I'll never part with my Phoenix RL-59P that cost US$40. Go for it!

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QuoteOriginally posted by riff Quote
I will have a Viv Series 1 105mm Macro soon.

I have the opportunity to buy the ring flash that came with the lens. It's a Yuzo DC2814. Price is $75, condition EX+ It looks like this;

Vivitar Macro Lens & Point Ring Flash on Film Camera | eBay

Do I want a ring flash?
Do I want a Yuzo DC2814 ring flash?

You tell me, I don't know.
ring flash? why not?
11-08-2011, 04:50 PM   #6
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Looks like it's unanimous!

Thanks all!
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QuoteOriginally posted by riff Quote
Looks like it's unanimous!

Thanks all!
I was going to chime in earlier, but I felt there was a slight conflict of interest
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QuoteOriginally posted by dgaies Quote
I was going to chime in earlier, but I felt there was a slight conflict of interest
I thought you might, all in good fun.

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Yes If I recall, the Yuzo model allows for some manual controls too.
11-08-2011, 08:50 PM   #10
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Ring flashes make macro sooooo much easier in my opinion, and for that price, its a no brainer
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SOldBear has a Soligor ring flash for sale on the Market Place: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/162129-sale-s...ht-ar-20t.html I have the same and the modeling light is handy to have for focusing prior to releasing the shutter.
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One other advantage of getting a ring flash is that it will neutralize the purple fringing of the VS1.
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The biggest problem with ring flash is the illumination is nothing even close to natural lighting. The very flat lighting doesn't offer much modeling to the subject and it is a recipe for predictable and very boring macro images that show obvious hotspots.
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The biggest problem with ring flash is the illumination is nothing even close to natural lighting. The very flat lighting doesn't offer much modeling to the subject and it is a recipe for predictable and very boring macro images that show obvious hotspots.
Quite true. The ringflash is most suitable alone when shooting subjects that are flat both physically and reflectively, or if we *want* photographically flattened results. If the subject is dimensional, we likely want modeling light; an off-camera flash on a cheap SYK optical trigger can do wonders. If the subject is shiny, soft light may be called for -- diffusion, softbox, etc. Remember that we're capturing light, not subjects.
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Yes, the results with ring flash will be very different than the ones without. They can be better or worse - that's up to you.

The main differences are:

- with flash, the background will usually be darker
- with flash, you have to use smaller apertures, so you get less bokeh and more detail beyond the focal point

Here are some examples (click on images for larger size):





Similar subject without flash and with flash:

Without flash:



With flash:



More photos with ring flash here.
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