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jennverr · 11-09-2011, 09:05 AM

Hi all!

After much much much research and pondering, I just purchased a used Pentax M 50mm 1.7 on e-bay for use on my Kx! You know, tbh, I never really understood why people had so many different types of lenses. But after looking through so many of the images of these little lenses, I thought to myself - I must try this! So excited!

Nowhere Matt · 11-09-2011, 09:24 AM

You know why some have so many different lenses? For the same reasons why women have so many different shoes.
I, for one, no longer complain about women wearing so many different shoes because I have learned that each shoe allows the woman to walk a little differently. A little difference in the movement of the hips as she strolls.
What does this have to do with why we have different lenses? Not much. But everyone has their own reasons, I suppose.

Adam · 11-09-2011, 09:56 AM - **1 Like**

Someone in this thread has LBA

I like your thinking, though!

**blackcloudbrew** · 11-09-2011, 10:21 AM

LBA claims another victim.

sterretje · 11-09-2011, 10:25 AM

You know, the problem is that once you start using it, you will always wonder what something else can do for you. So you start adding another (faster) 50 , or a 28mm, or ...

And before you know you have to join https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/55383-lens-buy...anonymous.html

Some flowers (taken with the M50/1.7) to celebrate, congratulations

RioRico · 11-09-2011, 10:40 AM

You can never have too many lenses -- unless you run out of storage space. Why acquire many lenses, many of the same focal length? My lame excuse is, FOR TESTING -- it's just dispassionate scientific inquiry to see what's 'best'. The actual reason is, FOR TASTING -- because each lens acts and feels and delivers differently.

Even the SuperTak and FA versions of the 50/1.4, which have near,y identical optics, are very different in use. One with smooth firm manual focus, the other with fast agile autofocus, the evolved coatings -- and of course they're very different than my planar Yashica ML 50/1.4 or my rich Tomioka 55/1.4, or the incomparable K50/1.2.

Other Fifties are renowned for their sharpness and/or bokeh and/or character and/or whatever: the SMC-M and Yashinon-DX 50/1.7s; the Meyer Oreston and Olympus OM-S 50/1.8s; the Rikenon 50/2 and 55/1.8; the Zeiss Tessar and Meyer Domiplan 50/2.8; the Meyer Primotar-E 50/3.5; the Macro-Takumar 50/4; the SuperTak and Mamiya and Petri CC 55/1.8s; the Helios-44 58/2; and many others around there that I wish I had. All are tasty treats.

jennverr · 11-09-2011, 02:02 PM

thanks everyone! will post some pics up as soon as i get it! btw i am a woman and i do not have THAT many shoes

StepOne · 11-09-2011, 02:45 PM

What is LBA

I have 5 50's so far...A 50 f2, 2 Helios 44M-4, a Helios 44M-3, Industar 50 f3.5, Industar 61l/z 50 f2.8...oh wait...6 50's. Jesus...

RioRico · 11-09-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by StepOne

What is LBA

I have 5 50's so far...A 50 f2, 2 Helios 44M-4, a Helios 44M-3, Industar 50 f3.5, Industar 61l/z 50 f2.8...oh wait...6 50's. Jesus...

All slow ones, and multiple Helios abuse. Well, it's a start.

Now you can look for those I mentioned above. Have fun!

Laurentiu Cristofor · 11-11-2011, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by jennverr

Just purchased first non-kit lens

Wasn't the 50/1.7 a kit lens in its time?

wolfiegirl · 11-13-2011, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by StepOne

What is LBA

I have 5 50's so far...A 50 f2, 2 Helios 44M-4, a Helios 44M-3, Industar 50 f3.5, Industar 61l/z 50 f2.8...oh wait...6 50's. Jesus...

Is a helios *really* classified as a 50? I mean, the number says 44, not 50..........

StepOne · 11-13-2011, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by wolfiegirl

Is a helios *really* classified as a 50? I mean, the number says 44, not 50..........

That's why i got 3 of them, was not sure

. They were cheap anyway.
Anyway i think that compared to canikon, AF 50's and manual second hand are expensive. So i won't touch 1.4, 1.7, 1.8 at current prices.

RioRico · 11-13-2011, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by StepOne

Anyway i think that compared to canikon, AF 50's and manual second hand are expensive. So i won't touch 1.4, 1.7, 1.8 at current prices.

Edgar_in_Indy · 11-13-2011, 12:33 PM

I think you'll love that f1.7 50mm. I got one for my K-x a couple weeks ago and have been thoroughly enjoying it. This is my first manual focus lens, and I never imagined that it would be so usable. I find focusing by eye through the viewfinder to be almost impossible, but Catch In Focus works like a charm. I've gotten so many great shots already, and I continue to be amazed at the kind of images this old lens produces. Here's a shot from yesterday of my 2-yoa looking in the mirror at the hair salon.

jennverr · 11-18-2011, 11:27 AM

I got the lens! Yay'! Took it out for a few test shots (some below).

One thing I noticed, and maybe someone knows why - I have it set to Manual mode on the camera, chose my aperture, then hit the green button to get the shutter. Well, sometimes, the camera wants to set the shutter to 0.3", and I have no idea why. This is ISO 100, and in bright daylight. Anyone know why it might do this?

Also, it's interesting to see after I blow these images up that things were really NOT as in focus as I thought they were! to be fair, it IS a windy day today, and stuff moved a lot

But, what is this "catch in focus" i keep reading about? Does that help? Thanks everyone!

11-09-2011, 09:05 AM	#1
jennverr Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: washington, dc Posts: 224	Just purchased first non-kit lens Hi all! After much much much research and pondering, I just purchased a used Pentax M 50mm 1.7 on e-bay for use on my Kx! You know, tbh, I never really understood why people had so many different types of lenses. But after looking through so many of the images of these little lenses, I thought to myself - I must try this! So excited!

11-09-2011, 10:25 AM	#5
sterretje Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Roodepoort, South Africa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,561	You know, the problem is that once you start using it, you will always wonder what something else can do for you. So you start adding another (faster) 50 , or a 28mm, or ... And before you know you have to join https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/55383-lens-buy...anonymous.html Some flowers (taken with the M50/1.7) to celebrate, congratulations Last edited by sterretje; 11-09-2011 at 10:34 AM.

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11-09-2011, 09:24 AM	#2
Nowhere Matt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nowhere Land Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,362	You know why some have so many different lenses? For the same reasons why women have so many different shoes. I, for one, no longer complain about women wearing so many different shoes because I have learned that each shoe allows the woman to walk a little differently. A little difference in the movement of the hips as she strolls. What does this have to do with why we have different lenses? Not much. But everyone has their own reasons, I suppose.

11-09-2011, 09:56 AM - 1 Like	#3
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Someone in this thread has LBA I like your thinking, though!

11-09-2011, 10:21 AM	#4
blackcloudbrew Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cotati, California USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,461	LBA claims another victim.

11-09-2011, 10:40 AM	#6
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	You can never have too many lenses -- unless you run out of storage space. Why acquire many lenses, many of the same focal length? My lame excuse is, FOR TESTING -- it's just dispassionate scientific inquiry to see what's 'best'. The actual reason is, FOR TASTING -- because each lens acts and feels and delivers differently. Even the SuperTak and FA versions of the 50/1.4, which have near,y identical optics, are very different in use. One with smooth firm manual focus, the other with fast agile autofocus, the evolved coatings -- and of course they're very different than my planar Yashica ML 50/1.4 or my rich Tomioka 55/1.4, or the incomparable K50/1.2. Other Fifties are renowned for their sharpness and/or bokeh and/or character and/or whatever: the SMC-M and Yashinon-DX 50/1.7s; the Meyer Oreston and Olympus OM-S 50/1.8s; the Rikenon 50/2 and 55/1.8; the Zeiss Tessar and Meyer Domiplan 50/2.8; the Meyer Primotar-E 50/3.5; the Macro-Takumar 50/4; the SuperTak and Mamiya and Petri CC 55/1.8s; the Helios-44 58/2; and many others around there that I wish I had. All are tasty treats.

11-09-2011, 02:02 PM	#7
jennverr Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: washington, dc Posts: 224 Original Poster	thanks everyone! will post some pics up as soon as i get it! btw i am a woman and i do not have THAT many shoes

11-09-2011, 02:45 PM	#8
StepOne Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Botosani Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 285	What is LBA I have 5 50's so far...A 50 f2, 2 Helios 44M-4, a Helios 44M-3, Industar 50 f3.5, Industar 61l/z 50 f2.8...oh wait...6 50's. Jesus...

11-09-2011, 03:52 PM	#9
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Originally posted by StepOne What is LBA I have 5 50's so far...A 50 f2, 2 Helios 44M-4, a Helios 44M-3, Industar 50 f3.5, Industar 61l/z 50 f2.8...oh wait...6 50's. Jesus... All slow ones, and multiple Helios abuse. Well, it's a start. Now you can look for those I mentioned above. Have fun!

11-11-2011, 12:06 AM	#10
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	Originally posted by jennverr Just purchased first non-kit lens Wasn't the 50/1.7 a kit lens in its time?

11-13-2011, 02:42 AM	#11
wolfiegirl Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mystery Bay, NSW Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,111	Originally posted by StepOne What is LBA I have 5 50's so far...A 50 f2, 2 Helios 44M-4, a Helios 44M-3, Industar 50 f3.5, Industar 61l/z 50 f2.8...oh wait...6 50's. Jesus... Is a helios really classified as a 50? I mean, the number says 44, not 50..........

11-13-2011, 06:28 AM	#12
StepOne Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Botosani Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 285	Originally posted by wolfiegirl Is a helios really classified as a 50? I mean, the number says 44, not 50.......... That's why i got 3 of them, was not sure . They were cheap anyway. Anyway i think that compared to canikon, AF 50's and manual second hand are expensive. So i won't touch 1.4, 1.7, 1.8 at current prices.

11-13-2011, 11:09 AM	#13
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Originally posted by StepOne Anyway i think that compared to canikon, AF 50's and manual second hand are expensive. So i won't touch 1.4, 1.7, 1.8 at current prices. Then look for Yashica 50/1.4\|1.7\|1.9, Meyer\|Pentacon 50/1.8, Sears\|Chinon\|Cosina 50/1.8\|2, Rikenon 50\|55, Sears\|Mamiya 55/1.4, Petri\|Mamiya\|Porst 55/1.8, all those in M42 or PK. And look for easily-modded mounts like OM, C/Y and Exakta. The world is your oyster; grab an oyster fork and dig in!

11-13-2011, 12:33 PM	#14
Edgar_in_Indy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,685	I think you'll love that f1.7 50mm. I got one for my K-x a couple weeks ago and have been thoroughly enjoying it. This is my first manual focus lens, and I never imagined that it would be so usable. I find focusing by eye through the viewfinder to be almost impossible, but Catch In Focus works like a charm. I've gotten so many great shots already, and I continue to be amazed at the kind of images this old lens produces. Here's a shot from yesterday of my 2-yoa looking in the mirror at the hair salon.