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11-27-2011, 03:38 PM   #16
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I'm a bit torn now.

It's very nice at F8 with an auto focus fine tune of -8.

I got it primarily for the WR feature for taking photos of Christmas parades and other similar events, which are usually at night and call for wide apertures.

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The kit WR has been on my maybe-list for awhile now. I already know its role: For shooting in mud, sand, grime, gunk, muck, etc. For crawling around in insavoury places. For jet-boat rides. For grandkids splashing enthusiastically in pools and sprinklers. NOT for night shooting -- faster glass is needed there.
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The kit lens is what it is. And for me the only thing that interests me is the WR so I don't fry my camera. I'm not concerned about damaging my $50 MF lenses because I'm not going to use WR to abuse my stuff that much. However I do not want to hurt my camera especially if I pick up a K5 before next summer.
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I relaize that the kit lens is just that, but compared to others is mine on the soft side wide open? It should still produce usable images and I don't remember my last kit lens being like that.

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Soft wide open is frequently mentioned when people talk about the kit lens.

What shutter speeds are you using? My biggest problem was that it didn't have a big enough aperture to have a fast shutter speed at night. I wouldn't be surprised if your softness is due to shake and/or motion blur.
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Can't go wrong with WR... especially up here in the PNW!



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Mine looked like that in the storm that rolled through on Thursday.

I gave up before the camera did
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QuoteOriginally posted by RioRico Quote
NOT for night shooting -- faster glass is needed there.
I find it pretty good for night shooting actually. From a tripod of course. Colours are nice.

Regarding sharpness I don't really know what mine is like wide open, I've just sort of assumed it needs to stop down at least a stop.

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The 18-55 WR is an excellent tool when you want WR and a compact, light zoom. Look at my lineup and you will see it's the least glamorous of the lot, and indeed the worse optically, but it still belongs there with the rest. I wouldn't part from mine, and I can rely on it.

However, do NOT pay 230$ for it. That's the price from a store in Canada, for a new copy, but you will be able to get it for about 100$ here on the marketplace.
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QuoteOriginally posted by drougge Quote
I find it pretty good for night shooting actually. From a tripod of course. Colours are nice.
OP mentioned a couple times that their applications include shooting parades at night. I don't think a tripod will suffice with moving subjects.
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Soft wide open is frequently mentioned when people talk about the kit lens.

What shutter speeds are you using? My biggest problem was that it didn't have a big enough aperture to have a fast shutter speed at night. I wouldn't be surprised if your softness is due to shake and/or motion blur.
Don't recall the shutter speed, but all the photos were taken on a tripod using the 2 second timer and a flash.


I know that most lenses are softer wide open than they are stopped down, but I'm trying to determine if this is soft to the point of being unusable.
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Ok, now I'm even more puzzled.

Stuck the lens back on the camera and took some more photos, tripod and handheld.

Wide open, the shots were perfectly usable. None of yesterday's softness.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RioRico Quote
OP mentioned a couple times that their applications include shooting parades at night. I don't think a tripod will suffice with moving subjects.
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QuoteOriginally posted by sebberry Quote
Don't recall the shutter speed, but all the photos were taken on a tripod using the 2 second timer and a flash.


I know that most lenses are softer wide open than they are stopped down, but I'm trying to determine if this is soft to the point of being unusable.
the shutter speed is in the EXIF info. iso info would also help. With the kit lens apertures I would be surprised if you had a shutter speed faster than 1/50th (probably slower) at night. It's possible that you are incorrectly calling motion blur lack of sharpness.
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It's possible that you are incorrectly calling motion blur lack of sharpness.
The photos in question were taken on a tripod, indoors with flash.
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