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12-13-2011, 05:58 AM   #46
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Yeah, I have a hard enough time focusing manually with any lens and the K-5 focusing screen so I think I will avoid the dim views of F5+ lenses.

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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
Was this comment meant for me specifically or was it a general comment? Regardless, I do have a few lenses that I probably shouldn't have bought and need to rationalize my setup. Based on my pie charts I could get by with about 4 primes.

EDIT: Actually, 8-16, 31mm, 50mm, 77mm, 90macro, 200 & 300. That'd pretty much cover what I'm doing with the zoom lens anyway. So that's 6 primes and one wide angle zoom.
That is a general comment. I have found that sometimes more lenses does not always equal better photo's. There are drawbacks to any lens system you choose be it IQ , size, weight or range. Everything is a compromise. If you are wanting decent IQ and flexibility and can handle the extra weight then the 60-250 is a fine choice.
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What about considering the Sigma 150-500 as a range extender beyond the DA*50-135? Anyone?
That lens is ok but has issues with IQ at the long end. The new 50-500mm os would be a little better in that regard but more money too. I had the older Bigma EX and was sometimes disappointed by its IQ at 500mm, now I am considering the new one. I will say that the DA*300 with teleconverter produces images that are sharper than the Bigma or the 150-500mm in a much lighter package. You have to do some focusing manually but again, there is always a trade off.
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Just when I decided that i was getting the 60-250, there is no stock in Aus and while some lenses are coming there will not be many. All the larger camera shops had them on back order and I assume it is for clients as I have never seen one displayed. Is that because CR Kennedy the distributor in Aus is running down its stock for a ricoh take over ? Now that I have my Sigma 500 I need to fill a very large gap. I feel my 50-135 won't fill the gap and the 60-250 will be easier to carry on a strap than the 50-135. (sorry I have 2 K5s)

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I will say that the DA*300 with teleconverter produces images that are sharper than the Bigma or the 150-500mm in a much lighter package. You have to do some focusing manually but again, there is always a trade off.
Are you referring to the 'new' 50-500 or the old one when you say 'bigma'? (EDIT: And advise that the 300 and TC would be sharper & lighter.)

Hmm.. and what TC would that be? I have a Tamron 1.4x that works with both FA & DA lenses but I've only had it two days and yesterday was pretty cloudy so I need to work with it a bit to see how good things can be. But I am considering replacing the FA with the DA after a chat I had today with another member though so that is very interesting information. Thanks

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Just when I decided that i was getting the 60-250, there is no stock in Aus and while some lenses are coming there will not be many. All the larger camera shops had them on back order and I assume it is for clients as I have never seen one displayed. Is that because CR Kennedy the distributor in Aus is running down its stock for a ricoh take over ? Now that I have my Sigma 500 I need to fill a very large gap. I feel my 50-135 won't fill the gap and the 60-250 will be easier to carry on a strap than the 50-135. (sorry I have 2 K5s)
Will you be keeping the 50-135 after you get the 60-250?

PS: CRK seems to be running down it's stock of Pentax but they deny they are about to lose the distribution. I would say that if Ricoh do take it over (and they have a network here for their own stuff so why wouldn't they?) that prices might actually come down to match OS prices. So I wouldn't panic about it just yet.. you may save quite a bit of money.

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I will be keeping the 50-135. I use it mostly for events and to take people and have just started using it for landscapes. The 60 - 250 will be wildlife and maybe landscapes. I will choose the kit which best suits what I will be photographing. It becomes a problem when I am doing the lot and am taking a flight. It is these times that I am relieved I am only struggling with a Pentax kit - the alternative of Nikon and canon would be massive.

Over the years I have been provided with very good service from CRK, but it would be nice to get cheaper lenses. I suppose they will still repair my pentax gear, but they see me most as I tend to destroy my sigma flashes. My record is 3 flashes in for repairs at once.
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I will be keeping the 50-135. I use it mostly for events and to take people and have just started using it for landscapes. The 60 - 250 will be wildlife and maybe landscapes. I will choose the kit which best suits what I will be photographing. It becomes a problem when I am doing the lot and am taking a flight. It is these times that I am relieved I am only struggling with a Pentax kit - the alternative of Nikon and canon would be massive.

Over the years I have been provided with very good service from CRK, but it would be nice to get cheaper lenses. I suppose they will still repair my pentax gear, but they see me most as I tend to destroy my sigma flashes. My record is 3 flashes in for repairs at once.
Hmm So avoid Sigma flashes right? ;-)

I think the 50-135 is great for landscape and as a portrait lens it's also very nice too. I'm a bit concerned at the possible edge softness of the 60-250 up until about 100mm but if you use both lenses on two bodies they'd make a fine combo. The 50-135 could handle up to about 110mm and the 60-250 could go it alone from there unless you needed that extra stop of speed for something.

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Thanks for the advice. That would mean that when I am traveling to have the 60-250 on a body so I can respond quickly to wildlife opportunities and replace the lens with the 50-135 when finding an interesting landscape.

The problem with the flash guns is me. I only recently obtained the sigma 500. before that i had the bigma 50-500. To get sharper images I used a flash for my bird photography. I kept having accidents falling over or just ripping the flash off the hot shoe in the car door. I even had replace the hot shoe on my K7. The sigma 500 prime does a great job without the flash so my setup is better. I am missing the flexibility of the bigma and that's why I am getting the 60-250. As I emailed my African photographic buddy. the 500 prime is good for birds and photographing African mammal eyelashes.
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Thanks for the advice. That would mean that when I am traveling to have the 60-250 on a body so I can respond quickly to wildlife opportunities and replace the lens with the 50-135 when finding an interesting landscape.

The problem with the flash guns is me. I only recently obtained the sigma 500. before that i had the bigma 50-500. To get sharper images I used a flash for my bird photography. I kept having accidents falling over or just ripping the flash off the hot shoe in the car door. I even had replace the hot shoe on my K7. The sigma 500 prime does a great job without the flash so my setup is better. I am missing the flexibility of the bigma and that's why I am getting the 60-250. As I emailed my African photographic buddy. the 500 prime is good for birds and photographing African mammal eyelashes.

Good sense of humor there.. lol.

I'm sure you were taking the p..s out of me in that 1st sentence. though ;-)

I can imagine what the stress of ripping the flash off the hot shoe on a regular basis would be like. As I get older I find I'm less trustworthy in complex 3D environments as one side of me keeps forgetting that the other still exists. (I'm not talking about my personality either)
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No p..s intended - I have been trying to think the best way of using lenses and if I could get away without buying the 60-250 as I love using the 50-135 for landscapes. I have been reading this thread to help clarify how I would use a 60-250. I had decided that the 500 prime is going on my next African trip and that the 50-135 didn't have enough reach.

The 60-250 will be the only serious zoom I will take to Africa. All the other lenses will be primes except for my 17-55WR which is my expendable lens.
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ye..I think 60-250 and 50-135 have a lot overlap..I would like to see pentax make a 100-300/400 range lens instead of 60-250
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QuoteOriginally posted by liukaitc Quote
e..I think 60-250 and 50-135 have a lot overlap..I would like to see pentax make a 100-300/400 range lens instead of 60-250
If it wasn't that I am addicted to my small wide angle primes I would agree. I find for myself starting the zoom at about 50 on an APC works for me. I could have purchased a 100-300 sigma but I think the design of the 60-250 will be a nice match within my kit and my style which is probably classed as unusual and non conformist.
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