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12-11-2011, 01:39 AM   #1
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Can the DA* 60-250 replace the 50-135, 200 & 300?

I have a DA* 50-135, DA* 200 F/2.8 & FA* 300 F/4.5 and I'm wondering if the DA* 60-250 can replace all three of these lenses. I know the 300 is outside the range but I usually end up cropping shots so it may not be a big deal if there's no big output required.

I'm also curious as to how many of you with both the DA* 50-135 & DA* 60-250 still use their 50-135 and if they'd share their thoughts.

I need to reduce some debt so I'm considering selling my lenses for the DA* 60-250 or that I may get a lens I already had at one stage, the Sigma 70-200.

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I recently bought the 60-250, nd have the 50-135.

I have not used the 50-135 since, but that is more a function of getting to grips with the new lens, and not having a specific need for the 50-135. By this I mean, if I were doing a portrait session, I would use the shorter, faster lens.

I think the two can co-exist, but if you need to realise some cash, yes the 60-250 can *almost* do the job. It's not as fast, probably doesn't render quite as well, but it can get the job done.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
I have a DA* 50-135, DA* 200 F/2.8 & FA* 300 F/4.5 and I'm wondering if the DA* 60-250 can replace all three of these lenses. I know the 300 is outside the range but I usually end up cropping shots so it may not be a big deal if there's no big output required.

I'm also curious as to how many of you with both the DA* 50-135 & DA* 60-250 still use their 50-135 and if they'd share their thoughts.

I need to reduce some debt so I'm considering selling my lenses for the DA* 60-250 or that I may get a lens I already had at one stage, the Sigma 70-200.

Cheers
I must confess I haven't used the DA*50-135 since the got the DA* 60-250. The 60-250 is an underrated lens. I was out this weekend
photographing a helicopter that was doing flybys. It has a really short throw to focus so it focuses really fast.



the 60-250 reminds me on an 80-240 sun zoom I had from Spiratone 40 years ago. I like it, and I've quickly fallen in love with the 60-250.

I had a DA*300 and for that matter a A*300 f/4 that went down the road last week (not to mention that I have an A*300 f2.8 that is on the forum for sale now.) I of course bought an FA* 300 f.2.8--- but its use will be quite different than what I had in mind for the DA*300.

I thinkyour idea is rational unless you are doing night/indoor sports photography. I put together a kit for my daughter who has to be the
official yearbook photographer for the highschool where she is a teacher. It included the 50-135 and the 200 because the school sports tend
to be in bad lighting.
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QuoteOriginally posted by wizofoz Quote
I recently bought the 60-250, nd have the 50-135.

I have not used the 50-135 since, but that is more a function of getting to grips with the new lens, and not having a specific need for the 50-135. By this I mean, if I were doing a portrait session, I would use the shorter, faster lens.

I think the two can co-exist, but if you need to realise some cash, yes the 60-250 can *almost* do the job. It's not as fast, probably doesn't render quite as well, but it can get the job done.
Thanks for the reply wizofoz. I have a few other lenses (sig) that can suffice for portraits etc so I guess I was thinking of a general walk-around lens to cover the bases of the three lenses mentioned.

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QuoteOriginally posted by rvannatta Quote
I must confess I haven't used the DA*50-135 since the got the DA* 60-250. The 60-250 is an underrated lens. I was out this weekend
photographing a helicopter that was doing flybys. It has a really short throw to focus so it focuses really fast.



the 60-250 reminds me on an 80-240 sun zoom I had from Spiratone 40 years ago. I like it, and I've quickly fallen in love with the 60-250.

I had a DA*300 and for that matter a A*300 f/4 that went down the road last week (not to mention that I have an A*300 f2.8 that is on the forum for sale now.) I of course bought an FA* 300 f.2.8--- but its use will be quite different than what I had in mind for the DA*300.

I thinkyour idea is rational unless you are doing night/indoor sports photography. I put together a kit for my daughter who has to be the
official yearbook photographer for the highschool where she is a teacher. It included the 50-135 and the 200 because the school sports tend
to be in bad lighting.
Cheers rvannatta,

I love the 50-135 as it's pin sharp at f5.6-f8 whereas the 60-250 is not quite as sharp, according to the excel charts I have put together. The 60-250 is sharper than the DA* 200 F.2.8 at f5.6 - f8 as well - The edge of the 60-250 is even sharper than the center of the DA 200 at some apertures and the 200 also suffers pretty badly from PF as well. It's a compromise whichever way you go - nothing is perfect. I'm wondering if I'd miss the other lenses. I'd have to buy it and try it to see I guess.
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Well yes in theory. I bought 60-250mm and sold 50-135mm. But only because I have FA*85mm, since it is nice to have the short end covered with the 60-250, but the lens is far to heavy to go out and make some portraits.

Bought sigma 70-200mm last version and sold the 60-250 to buy the 300mm. Since it is a big gap between 200 and 300 and not between 250 and 300.
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Well yes in theory. I bought 60-250mm and sold 50-135mm. But only because I have FA*85mm, since it is nice to have the short end covered with the 60-250, but the lens is far to heavy to go out and make some portraits.

Bought sigma 70-200mm last version and sold the 60-250 to buy the 300mm. Since it is a big gap between 200 and 300 and not between 250 and 300.
OK thanks Ron,

So you're saying the 60-250 could take the place of those lenses? And because you ended up with the 70-200 OS, you had to buy a 300 to extend the range - which you would not have done had you kept the 60-250? EDIT: Are you still happy with the Sigma?

I'm also wondering if I'd miss the 200 at all if I just kept the 50-135 and 300 F4.5. It's an education.. an expensive one if you're not careful.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
OK thanks Ron,

So you're saying the 60-250 could take the place of those lenses? And because you ended up with the 70-200 OS, you had to buy a 300 to extend the range - which you would not have done had you kept the 60-250? EDIT: Are you still happy with the Sigma?

I'm also wondering if I'd miss the 200 at all if I just kept the 50-135 and 300 F4.5. It's an education.. an expensive one if you're not careful.
Well the DA*200mm is much easier to handle since the Sigma 70-200mm/f2.8 EX DG OS HSM is a huge and heavy lens. Only downside to the DA*200mm is slow focussing. The Sigma looses from DA*200/300 and the 60-250 is also sharper at 200mm, but looses quality wide-open at 220-250mm (wich does improve even at f4.5).

So am I happy with my Sigma, well it's a mixed bag at the time. I would trade it in for a Pentaxversion D-FA*80-200mm/f2.8 (or make me happy with a Pentax DA*135-270mm/f2.8). On the other hand I made this wonderfull picture with it at the womens Boxing European Championship from on the left Marichelle de Jong in the final under 69 kg where she became Champion.


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Nice shot indeed. Yes it is a mixed bag which is why it's so hard to fine tune the whole kit. One or two mistakes can add up to $1,000's. I bought a Tamron TC last week and it should arrive in a few days. I'll see how that changes things and work it from there.

The DA* 200 suffers badly from PF and you can only remove some of it before the colour content in the picture starts to change substantially - I loathe PF. I have a feeling I will end up going with the 60-250 because it has the potential to allow me to sell off all three lenses (or just the 200) without losing out financially.

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as you get further and further into the telephoto range one stop of lens speed can be a big deal, considering what you already have I would consider sticking with the 50-135, though the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 would perhaps suite your needs better. It is a shame the Sigma 100-300mm f/4 EX APO* DG isn't still being produced because it would have been just about perfect for stage work - I have used mine in that capacity once and it did quite well.

*which means it has essentially no PF or LoCa.

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as you get further and further into the telephoto range one stop of lens speed can be a big deal, considering what you already have I would consider sticking with the 50-135, though the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 would perhaps suite your needs better. It is a shame the Sigma 100-300mm f/4 EX APO DG isn't still being produced because it would have been just about perfect for stage work - I have used mine in that capacity once and it did quite well.
The 100-300 would be perfect. I really don't want to sell the 50-135 as that lens is simply wonderful. The Sigma 70-200 F/2.8 HSM II are going for Pentax at around $650. I bought one a few weeks ago but returned it.. it was a better sample than the one I used to own too. That lens is playing on my mind quite a bit. The shop still has it too... I think I'm going slightly nuts frankly.
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well as I recall the Grenfell street camera store has a pentax 60-250mm f/4, you could take a look at it and see if it suits also I recall they might have a Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 in K mount.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
The Sigma 70-200 F/2.8 HSM II are going for Pentax at around $650.
Well I'm not the biggest fan for that version, and why I never bought it. The new version is better. Only downside is that it is more expensive.

I would also buy Sigma 120-300mm/f2.8 EX DG OS HSM when it comes in K-mount. When there is a new version of DA*50-135mm with SDM-II then I would buy that lens again. The two together would make me sell my Sigma 70-200mm again.

I'm not attached to my geaqr as you can read (just sold my DA14mm to purchase DA15mm to have a small wide angle).
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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
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The DA* 200 suffers badly from PF and you can only remove some of it before the colour content in the picture starts to change substantially - I loathe PF. I have a feeling I will end up going with the 60-250 because it has the potential to allow me to sell off all three lenses (or just the 200) without losing out financially.

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I like primes, but a 200 really doesn't do much for me. I recently sold off my Pentax-A line of lenses that I have had for years---looking backwards, I don't think I ever took a photo with it except to check it out. I often carried it with me when the only other long lens I was taking was a 300 out of concern that somehow I would find something that I wanted to photograph where the 300 wouldn't work, but that day never came.
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I have owned the DA*50-135, Sigma 100-300 f4 and a few other zooms and I think the 60-250 is much better in many ways. Size, IQ, Speed,Versatility. The only lens I need now is a 250-600 f5.6....and a "great" 16-60 f2.8. With the DA*60-250 and the K-5 I can sneek up on someone and no one can hear me shoot...
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