traveling light (for me)

RioRico · 01-10-2012, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by wolfiegirl

careful Rico... it sounds like you're ADDING lenses to the list now, not culling

Oh, those would replace some of the name brands. The Porst 55 instead of the Tomioka and Petri. The Porst 35 instead of the Isco. Maybe the Isco 105 instead of the SuperTak, and the Zuiko 135 instead of the SMC-M. The Accura 28 instead of the Kiron and SMC-M. I'll work on it.

Last edited by RioRico; 01-10-2012 at 03:42 AM.

wolfiegirl · 01-10-2012, 03:37 AM

ok

RioRico · 01-10-2012, 03:43 AM

[/me awaits lynching for swapping-out Pentax glass]

hoanpham · 01-10-2012, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by RioRico

[/me awaits lynching for swapping-out Pentax glass]

Don't swap too many ;-) Stay safe. Smc has superb color rending, and some flare resistance too.

Docrwm · 01-10-2012, 06:00 AM

Not to change the subject, but I know you'll take an interesting assortment. The question that occurred to me while reading through your list was "How do you store all those lenses for transport?"

hoanpham · 01-10-2012, 06:12 AM

A Thinktank Glass taxi inside a roller suitcase, plus a small durable paper box to hold the K200/2.5 and M300/4, both with lens case. The K5, Ensinor24, FA50 and FA85 in backpack.
Don't know how RioRico can carry all his. We stay one place as a base, then flight to other locations and back.

chickenandavocado · 01-10-2012, 06:16 AM

may i ask what is a 'non camera lens' ?

sorry if it is a stupid question hehe

hoanpham · 01-10-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by chickenandavocado

may i ask what is a 'non camera lens' ?

Lenses that normal are not for use with a camera - like projector lenses, enlarger lenses, xray machine lenses, telescopes, bi/monoculars. in another word, whatever glass that can be mounted (or handhold) infront of a body by any mean.

I am not there yet, but soon, and still hope to avoid this kind of LBA.

GeneV · 01-10-2012, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by wolfiegirl

oh i feel for you rico! it has been kindly "suggested" to me that I only bring 3 lenses for my 2 camera bodies on my 3 week trip to Europe in March. I am falling asleep each night trying to justify what lenses to take.

I can't imagine the nightmares you have each night trying to choose!

I got nothing for you either, but it looks like you're starting to narrow it down already?

It can be fun to do what Rio does (I never had his kit, but I remember the bag I could use as a spare bed), but traveling light has its pleasures. My last trip to Europe was on a Kx/K100d (both use AA batts) DA 15/21/40/70 and DA18-55/50-200. One body and lenses fit nicely into a little CameraSafe 100. The photos were every bit as good. The next time I travel light, I might replace the 18-55/50-200 with an 18-135 but I'm pretty happy.

RioRico · 01-10-2012, 09:30 AM

How to transport: My daily carry-kit goes into my sling Ameribag. Most lenses sit in baggies inside a Domke F-2 bag. Small accessories (filters, chargers, adapters, etc) go in a Tamrac Expedition 3 pack. Overflow... well, I have another couple bags, but not for this excursion.

How little to transport: Yes, traveling light is good when schlepping stuff. I *could* pare down to my Mandatory Zooms (minus the bulky Betavaron) and the Minikit, plus selected fast light primes: Kiron 24/4, FA50/1.4, Nikkor 85/2. These and tubes and flash fit in my Ameribag.

Were I circling the globe on transit systems, I'd carry much less: m4/3 maybe. But I'm doing the driving, so I get to carry more. And since I have a pile of interesting gear, I may as well take some. Other trips, other challenges: Cross-country with only a Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5!

Non-camera lenses: As hoanpham said, any optical materials that can be stuck in front of a camera. The two major types, despite labeling, are enlarger lenses (ELs, with apertures) and everything else (no aperture). Some of the "everything else" have rather strange optics.

Gotta go now, but I'll be back later with an updated list.

Bob from Aus · 01-10-2012, 01:23 PM

Mmmm. I understand your problem. Just because I understand the problem (from experience) does not mean I have a solution for you, I have enough problems with myself. Best of luck.

riff · 01-10-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by RioRico

Like SURVIVOR but without the cleavage.

Need Tamron 10-24, DA18-250, Lil'Bigma 170-500, K50 1.2

The rest are... need to come to my house

wolfiegirl · 01-10-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

It can be fun to do what Rio does (I never had his kit, but I remember the bag I could use as a spare bed), but traveling light has its pleasures. My last trip to Europe was on a Kx/K100d (both use AA batts) DA 15/21/40/70 and DA18-55/50-200. One body and lenses fit nicely into a little CameraSafe 100. The photos were every bit as good. The next time I travel light, I might replace the 18-55/50-200 with an 18-135 but I'm pretty happy.

in the past all i had was the 18-50 and 50-200. this was before i succumbed to LBA. they did me well but i hated swapping over when i got to 50 just for a little more length. i have tons of time to ponder on the issue though, so if i really do get stuck i'll ask the forum for assistance.

the bonus (i guess) this time around is that i'll have 2 cameras, so theoretically i won't be swapping. but it does mean if hubby has one camera i need to wrestle it off him in time to still get the shot.

i can just see it now...

"just give me the camera dammit. i need to shoot this NOW!"
"but why??" as he smiles maddingly.

Originally posted by riff

Need Tamron 10-24, DA18-250, Lil'Bigma 170-500, K50 1.2 The rest are... need to come to my house

nah nah nah riff. he should come by MY place FIRST. THEN to you. *nods*

**Lowell Goudge** · 01-10-2012, 04:17 PM

If it were me, I would take most of my kit (although I only have 45 lenses). Basically I would have my k mount primes (8mm-300mm) but I would leave my 400/5.6 home in favor of my 200-500/5.6 which is better and has more reach. I would take my complete m42 kit (16-200mm) and the I would take 4 AF zooms. 10-20, 28-75/2.8 70-200/2.8 and eithe the FA-J 18-35 or DA 18-55.

This plus my digital bodies, 1 film body just in case plus a couple of flashes.

Day trips would pare this down quite a bit but I can see me using most of it in complementary terms with different lenses (focal lengths) mounted on different bodies.

RioRico · 01-10-2012, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by riff

Need Tamron 10-24, DA18-250, Lil'Bigma 170-500, K50 1.2
The rest are... need to come to my house

Whatever you're smoking, you need to share it with us.

Originally posted by wolfiegirl

in the past all i had was the 18-50 and 50-200. this was before i succumbed to LBA. they did me well but i hated swapping over when i got to 50 just for a little more length.

And that's why the DA18-250 is great. No missing shots whilst swapping lenses. The IQ of a missed shot is zero, near as I can tell.

My travel strategy: Use the 18-250. Arrive somewhere. Use the 18-250. Recce the terrain, taking mental notes. Walk the terrain later with selected primes. Then walk it again with just one prime (and backups in the bag). Repeat until it's time to go. Depending on spaciousness and prudence, substitute the 10-24 or 170-500 for the 18-250. Run when necessary.

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

If it were me, I would take most of my kit (although I only have 45 lenses).

I got away with that a few years ago. No more. I could still do it if I had a Bob.Harris-type ~~battleship~~ motorhome. Or a cargo droid.

01-10-2012, 09:30 AM	#25
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263 Original Poster	How to transport: My daily carry-kit goes into my sling Ameribag. Most lenses sit in baggies inside a Domke F-2 bag. Small accessories (filters, chargers, adapters, etc) go in a Tamrac Expedition 3 pack. Overflow... well, I have another couple bags, but not for this excursion. How little to transport: Yes, traveling light is good when schlepping stuff. I could pare down to my Mandatory Zooms (minus the bulky Betavaron) and the Minikit, plus selected fast light primes: Kiron 24/4, FA50/1.4, Nikkor 85/2. These and tubes and flash fit in my Ameribag. Were I circling the globe on transit systems, I'd carry much less: m4/3 maybe. But I'm doing the driving, so I get to carry more. And since I have a pile of interesting gear, I may as well take some. Other trips, other challenges: Cross-country with only a Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5! Non-camera lenses: As hoanpham said, any optical materials that can be stuck in front of a camera. The two major types, despite labeling, are enlarger lenses (ELs, with apertures) and everything else (no aperture). Some of the "everything else" have rather strange optics. Gotta go now, but I'll be back later with an updated list. Last edited by RioRico; 01-10-2012 at 09:45 AM.

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01-10-2012, 03:36 AM	#16
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263 Original Poster	Originally posted by wolfiegirl careful Rico... it sounds like you're ADDING lenses to the list now, not culling Oh, those would replace some of the name brands. The Porst 55 instead of the Tomioka and Petri. The Porst 35 instead of the Isco. Maybe the Isco 105 instead of the SuperTak, and the Zuiko 135 instead of the SMC-M. The Accura 28 instead of the Kiron and SMC-M. I'll work on it. Last edited by RioRico; 01-10-2012 at 03:42 AM.

01-10-2012, 03:37 AM	#17
wolfiegirl Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mystery Bay, NSW Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,111	ok

01-10-2012, 03:43 AM	#18
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263 Original Poster	[/me awaits lynching for swapping-out Pentax glass]

01-10-2012, 04:31 AM	#19
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	Originally posted by RioRico [/me awaits lynching for swapping-out Pentax glass] Don't swap too many ;-) Stay safe. Smc has superb color rending, and some flare resistance too.

01-10-2012, 06:00 AM	#20
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Not to change the subject, but I know you'll take an interesting assortment. The question that occurred to me while reading through your list was "How do you store all those lenses for transport?"

01-10-2012, 06:12 AM	#21
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	A Thinktank Glass taxi inside a roller suitcase, plus a small durable paper box to hold the K200/2.5 and M300/4, both with lens case. The K5, Ensinor24, FA50 and FA85 in backpack. Don't know how RioRico can carry all his. We stay one place as a base, then flight to other locations and back.

01-10-2012, 06:16 AM	#22
chickenandavocado Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 327	may i ask what is a 'non camera lens' ? sorry if it is a stupid question hehe

01-10-2012, 06:40 AM	#23
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	Originally posted by chickenandavocado may i ask what is a 'non camera lens' ? Lenses that normal are not for use with a camera - like projector lenses, enlarger lenses, xray machine lenses, telescopes, bi/monoculars. in another word, whatever glass that can be mounted (or handhold) infront of a body by any mean. I am not there yet, but soon, and still hope to avoid this kind of LBA.

01-10-2012, 06:55 AM	#24
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by wolfiegirl oh i feel for you rico! it has been kindly "suggested" to me that I only bring 3 lenses for my 2 camera bodies on my 3 week trip to Europe in March. I am falling asleep each night trying to justify what lenses to take. I can't imagine the nightmares you have each night trying to choose! I got nothing for you either, but it looks like you're starting to narrow it down already? It can be fun to do what Rio does (I never had his kit, but I remember the bag I could use as a spare bed), but traveling light has its pleasures. My last trip to Europe was on a Kx/K100d (both use AA batts) DA 15/21/40/70 and DA18-55/50-200. One body and lenses fit nicely into a little CameraSafe 100. The photos were every bit as good. The next time I travel light, I might replace the 18-55/50-200 with an 18-135 but I'm pretty happy.

01-10-2012, 01:23 PM	#26
Bob from Aus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,094	Mmmm. I understand your problem. Just because I understand the problem (from experience) does not mean I have a solution for you, I have enough problems with myself. Best of luck.

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01-10-2012, 03:08 PM	#27
riff Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,408	Originally posted by RioRico Like SURVIVOR but without the cleavage. Need Tamron 10-24, DA18-250, Lil'Bigma 170-500, K50 1.2 The rest are... need to come to my house

01-10-2012, 04:15 PM	#28
wolfiegirl Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mystery Bay, NSW Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,111	Originally posted by GeneV It can be fun to do what Rio does (I never had his kit, but I remember the bag I could use as a spare bed), but traveling light has its pleasures. My last trip to Europe was on a Kx/K100d (both use AA batts) DA 15/21/40/70 and DA18-55/50-200. One body and lenses fit nicely into a little CameraSafe 100. The photos were every bit as good. The next time I travel light, I might replace the 18-55/50-200 with an 18-135 but I'm pretty happy. in the past all i had was the 18-50 and 50-200. this was before i succumbed to LBA. they did me well but i hated swapping over when i got to 50 just for a little more length. i have tons of time to ponder on the issue though, so if i really do get stuck i'll ask the forum for assistance. the bonus (i guess) this time around is that i'll have 2 cameras, so theoretically i won't be swapping. but it does mean if hubby has one camera i need to wrestle it off him in time to still get the shot. i can just see it now... "just give me the camera dammit. i need to shoot this NOW!" "but why??" as he smiles maddingly. Originally posted by riff Need Tamron 10-24, DA18-250, Lil'Bigma 170-500, K50 1.2 The rest are... need to come to my house nah nah nah riff. he should come by MY place FIRST. THEN to you. nods

01-10-2012, 04:17 PM	#29
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	If it were me, I would take most of my kit (although I only have 45 lenses). Basically I would have my k mount primes (8mm-300mm) but I would leave my 400/5.6 home in favor of my 200-500/5.6 which is better and has more reach. I would take my complete m42 kit (16-200mm) and the I would take 4 AF zooms. 10-20, 28-75/2.8 70-200/2.8 and eithe the FA-J 18-35 or DA 18-55. This plus my digital bodies, 1 film body just in case plus a couple of flashes. Day trips would pare this down quite a bit but I can see me using most of it in complementary terms with different lenses (focal lengths) mounted on different bodies.

01-10-2012, 07:01 PM	#30
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263 Original Poster	Originally posted by riff Need Tamron 10-24, DA18-250, Lil'Bigma 170-500, K50 1.2 The rest are... need to come to my house Whatever you're smoking, you need to share it with us. Originally posted by wolfiegirl in the past all i had was the 18-50 and 50-200. this was before i succumbed to LBA. they did me well but i hated swapping over when i got to 50 just for a little more length. And that's why the DA18-250 is great. No missing shots whilst swapping lenses. The IQ of a missed shot is zero, near as I can tell. My travel strategy: Use the 18-250. Arrive somewhere. Use the 18-250. Recce the terrain, taking mental notes. Walk the terrain later with selected primes. Then walk it again with just one prime (and backups in the bag). Repeat until it's time to go. Depending on spaciousness and prudence, substitute the 10-24 or 170-500 for the 18-250. Run when necessary. Originally posted by Lowell Goudge If it were me, I would take most of my kit (although I only have 45 lenses). I got away with that a few years ago. No more. I could still do it if I had a Bob.Harris-type ~~battleship~~ motorhome. Or a cargo droid.