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01-22-2012, 12:28 PM   #1
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Talk me out of buying the kit lens...

I am really tempted into buying the kit lens, here is my rationale.
I went to Cancun in the summer, and it was super humid and in some days it rained, so i wanted something in the wide-ish/normal-ish range (18-55mm) with weather resistance.
I also was pissing my wife off because I was changing lenses, holding up the group, etc (calls for a zoom). Right now, I shoot all primes.
I already have a 100mm macro WR, and a 300mm DA*, so I dont need anything in the long telephoto range with WR. Plus, the 18-135 WR is too expensive for what it is, in my humble experience (slowish, optics good but not great).
I can get the 18-55WR + the tamron 17-50 f2.8 both for cheaper than the DA* 16-50, and only break out the kit lens when the weather is crappy.

What do you guys think?

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I think the Pentax 17-70 wins hands down !
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If weather is a major concern, you get better WR with a DA* than with just a WR lens. But I've shot non-WR lenses on my K20D in heavy monsoon rain with just a plastic bag (and wide-brim hat) for protection. So the DA18-55WR will give some security; the DA*16-50 will give more protection and better optics; and the Tamron 17-50 would be affordable and probably survivable. It's your call.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
I can get the 18-55WR + the tamron 17-50 f2.8 both for cheaper than the DA* 16-50, and only break out the kit lens when the weather is crappy. What do you guys think?

I use the Tamron 17-50 in the rain,
either from under an umbrella/shelter,
or with an "uncover/shoot/wipe" technique.

01-22-2012, 01:02 PM   #5
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It's not a bad lense. I suppose , you will use it for family reunion and vacation trip. Go and get it , this is a very good comprisise
Here a thread were you can see photo of that lenses
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/lens-sample-photo-archive/153057-super-mu...s-samples.html
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I have the Tamron, which is a better lens in most respects, and it's survived several outings in rain or equivalent conditions. The main thing is to have a towel or rag handy to wipe the lens barrel down occasionally.

If you didn't want to spend the money on the Tamron, I would consider a used 16-45 instead of the 18-55.
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For what's it worth I kept a 18-55 WR for a while in addition to my 16-45 lens (before I got my DA* 16-50). Never used it, and ended up selling it. I always preferred the 16-45, and it was seldom you would know in advance when the WR was needed. Having said that I really like the WR on my DA*, and would NOT be without it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
I also was pissing my wife off because I was changing lenses, holding up the group
Sounds too me all you need to do is work on a technique for changing your lenses faster.

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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
Sounds too me all you need to do is work on a technique for changing your lenses faster.
Could be cheaper to change the wife lol
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The 18-55 kit lens isn't awesome, but it's perfectly serviceable, and you can probably pick up a good used copy for US$100 or so -- which makes it a no-brainer as a "just-in-case" lens. (If you're gonna be doing a lot of shooting where you know ahead of time the conditions will be crappy, well, that changes the calculations a bit, but $100 is cheap insurance for bad weather.)
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I also think the DA 16-45 (along with a bag) makes the most sense. In any case, I've never found WR on wider lenses to be all that useful, because it's so hard to keep drops off the front element. The DFA 100 and the DA* 300 have nice long hoods to keep the front element dry. But the hood for the DA 18-55 is just not big enough to accomplish that end.
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get the kits lens and buy her dinner. The optical quality is above average, and when my wife puts it on her k100 she has excellent results.
just a sample of one of her kit lens shots



good luck with your decision
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I think a WR kit lens is a great idea... Your primes are there when quality counts most, but for casual and wet weather shooting, the kit lens is small, light and cost effective. On the k5 you can always stop it down well, even if the light is poor.
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Me, I'd stay away from the SDM in the DA* 16-50 and go with the WR in the 18-55. If its merely to be used "just in case" or because SWMBO is in a hurry then save the money and the potential headache of the SDM.
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The kit lens is fine for a "just in case". I've had it out in sweeping rain on the K-5 and its been just fine. The comments about rain on the front element are justified though, its a pain to have to wipe off every few minutes. Nonetheless, it works.

As an every day lens its also fine. I have some really nice primes but sometimes I just do not feel like using them. Sometimes, I can't decide what f/l I want so I go for the combo.


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