Lost deal on F 50mm 1.7 GRRRRR!

richshoots · 01-24-2012, 02:29 PM

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So I've been trying to hunt down a good deal on an F 50MM 1.7 lens. I actually had this lens years ago on an SF1 and gave the camera and lens away. I'll never do that again, it would likely be spending lots of time on my K20D now. Anyway, today I spotted a new listing with no bids on eBay, so I asked if they'd be interested in a "buy now" offer of $150 (it was a no reserve listing at o.oo). Twenty minutes later I notice a reply in my inbox, they accepted my offer!!! BUT, then it says "we've updated the listed with the "buy it now price"!!! Of course, I pull it up and it had sold within one minute of the change!!!!! (I really thought I'd get a heads-up first!). Anyway, if you're the person that got that sweet deal, congrats to you, how about buying me a beer!

Philoslothical · 01-24-2012, 03:32 PM

The seller handled that badly. When making on offer on Ebay, it comes with the same commitment as a bid on an auction, should it be accepted by the seller. So if he accepted your offer and then sold it out from under you, you got screwed.

pxpaulx · 01-24-2012, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Philoslothical

The seller handled that badly. When making on offer on Ebay, it comes with the same commitment as a bid on an auction, should it be accepted by the seller. So if he accepted your offer and then sold it out from under you, you got screwed.

They should have given you an agreed-upon time to list the buy it now price, but in the end if you're just messaging with a seller/buyer there is no commitment, only an agreement really (which they honored too quickly apparently!).

Docrwm · 01-24-2012, 03:57 PM

SMC PENTAX -F 50mm f:1.7 AUTOFOCUS IN NICE CONDITION | eBay

bluestringer · 01-24-2012, 04:00 PM

KEH is listing two right now, one is an A version EX+ grade at $105.00. I have this one, great lens. They also have a M version listed as EX grade for $69.00.

Oops, sorry, you are looking for the autofocus version.

dgaies · 01-24-2012, 04:04 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by pxpaulx

They should have given you an agreed-upon time to list the buy it now price, but in the end if you're just messaging with a seller/buyer there is no commitment, only an agreement really (which they honored too quickly apparently!).

Unfortunately, that's the tricky part about asking a seller to add a buy-it-now price. Once they do it, anyone can buy it

Typically when I've done this in the past (both as a buyer and a seller on eBay), we agree on an exact time to add the BIN price so that the buyer is ready as soon as the seller changes the listing. It can be a slight pain to try and coordinate that, but otherwise you run the risk of what the OP described.

Originally posted by richshoots

(I really thought I'd get a heads-up first!). Anyway, if you're the person that got that sweet deal, congrats to you, how about buying me a beer!

Ok, instead of buying you a beer, how about I just let you have the lens instead as it seems I'm the one who got your sweet deal

Given the circumstances, and the fact that I wasn't going to keep it anyway, I'd rather you get the deal that should have been yours. I'll send you a PM when it gets here, which I imagine will be either Thursday or Friday.

claimed4all · 01-24-2012, 04:06 PM

They best way to handle it is have the Seller put a Make Offer button on there. Then you click Make Offer, punch in the agreed upon price and then when he accepts the deal is done. I have done that a few times.

dgaies · 01-24-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by claimed4all

They best way to handle it is have the Seller put a Make Offer button on there. Then you click Make Offer, punch in the agreed upon price and then when he accepts the deal is done. I have done that a few times.

That's actually the best way to do it. The couple times I described above actually preceded eBay having a "best offer" option.

**jatrax** · 01-24-2012, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

Given the circumstances, and the fact that I wasn't going to keep it anyway, I'd rather you get the deal that should have been yours. I'll send you a PM when it gets here, which I imagine will be either Thursday or Friday.

Ok, the odds on that particular coincidence (both of you watching this forum at the same time) are rather long. And you sir (assuming you are a sir and not a mam) are a gentleman (or whatever).

dgaies · 01-24-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Ok, the odds on that particular coincidence (both of you watching this forum at the same time) are rather long. And you sir (assuming you are a sir and not a mam) are a gentleman (or whatever).

Thanks

Well, once the OP created this thread, the odds became a lot more likely as I spend way too much time on here

But yeah, I agree, I'm sure when the OP created this thread he figured the likelihood of finding the buyer of the lens he was after was pretty slim.

**Kerrowdown** · 01-24-2012, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

I'm the one who got your sweet deal

I wonder what the odds of that happening, both on Ebay and both here.

jsherman999 · 01-24-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

Unfortunately, that's the tricky part about asking a seller to add a buy-it-now price. Once they do it, anyone can buy it

Typically when I've done this in the past (both as a buyer and a seller on eBay), we agree on an exact time to add the BIN price so that the buyer is ready as soon as the seller changes the listing. It can be a slight pain to try and coordinate that, but otherwise you run the risk of what the OP described.

Ok, instead of buying you a beer, how about I just let you have the lens instead as it seems I'm the one who got your sweet deal

Given the circumstances, and the fact that I wasn't going to keep it anyway, I'd rather you get the deal that should have been yours. I'll send you a PM when it gets here, which I imagine will be either Thursday or Friday.

Classy, Dan!

ducdao · 01-24-2012, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

Classy, Dan!

Sweet! A real gentleman!

dgaies · 01-24-2012, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

Classy, Dan!

Originally posted by ducdao

Sweet! A real gentleman!

Thanks guys. I figured a little good karma never hurt anyone

jsherman999 · 01-24-2012, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by dgaies

Thanks guys. I figure a little good karma never hurt anyone

I agree. Now, if you happen to run across an FA 135 f/2.8 for $250 BIN or so, snatch it up, shoot me a PM and I'll help you keep that karma going!

01-24-2012, 02:29 PM	#1
richshoots New Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10	Lost deal on F 50mm 1.7 GRRRRR! Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. So I've been trying to hunt down a good deal on an F 50MM 1.7 lens. I actually had this lens years ago on an SF1 and gave the camera and lens away. I'll never do that again, it would likely be spending lots of time on my K20D now. Anyway, today I spotted a new listing with no bids on eBay, so I asked if they'd be interested in a "buy now" offer of $150 (it was a no reserve listing at o.oo). Twenty minutes later I notice a reply in my inbox, they accepted my offer!!! BUT, then it says "we've updated the listed with the "buy it now price"!!! Of course, I pull it up and it had sold within one minute of the change!!!!! (I really thought I'd get a heads-up first!). Anyway, if you're the person that got that sweet deal, congrats to you, how about buying me a beer!

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01-24-2012, 03:32 PM	#2
Philoslothical Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,889	The seller handled that badly. When making on offer on Ebay, it comes with the same commitment as a bid on an auction, should it be accepted by the seller. So if he accepted your offer and then sold it out from under you, you got screwed.

01-24-2012, 03:39 PM	#3
pxpaulx Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 2,867	Originally posted by Philoslothical The seller handled that badly. When making on offer on Ebay, it comes with the same commitment as a bid on an auction, should it be accepted by the seller. So if he accepted your offer and then sold it out from under you, you got screwed. They should have given you an agreed-upon time to list the buy it now price, but in the end if you're just messaging with a seller/buyer there is no commitment, only an agreement really (which they honored too quickly apparently!).

01-24-2012, 03:57 PM	#4
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	SMC PENTAX -F 50mm f:1.7 AUTOFOCUS IN NICE CONDITION \| eBay

01-24-2012, 04:00 PM	#5
bluestringer Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Cotton fields of South Georgia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,748	KEH is listing two right now, one is an A version EX+ grade at $105.00. I have this one, great lens. They also have a M version listed as EX grade for $69.00. Oops, sorry, you are looking for the autofocus version.

01-24-2012, 04:04 PM - 4 Likes	#6
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by pxpaulx They should have given you an agreed-upon time to list the buy it now price, but in the end if you're just messaging with a seller/buyer there is no commitment, only an agreement really (which they honored too quickly apparently!). Unfortunately, that's the tricky part about asking a seller to add a buy-it-now price. Once they do it, anyone can buy it Typically when I've done this in the past (both as a buyer and a seller on eBay), we agree on an exact time to add the BIN price so that the buyer is ready as soon as the seller changes the listing. It can be a slight pain to try and coordinate that, but otherwise you run the risk of what the OP described. Originally posted by richshoots (I really thought I'd get a heads-up first!). Anyway, if you're the person that got that sweet deal, congrats to you, how about buying me a beer! Ok, instead of buying you a beer, how about I just let you have the lens instead as it seems I'm the one who got your sweet deal Given the circumstances, and the fact that I wasn't going to keep it anyway, I'd rather you get the deal that should have been yours. I'll send you a PM when it gets here, which I imagine will be either Thursday or Friday.

01-24-2012, 04:06 PM	#7
claimed4all Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan Posts: 96	They best way to handle it is have the Seller put a Make Offer button on there. Then you click Make Offer, punch in the agreed upon price and then when he accepts the deal is done. I have done that a few times.

01-24-2012, 04:10 PM	#8
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by claimed4all They best way to handle it is have the Seller put a Make Offer button on there. Then you click Make Offer, punch in the agreed upon price and then when he accepts the deal is done. I have done that a few times. That's actually the best way to do it. The couple times I described above actually preceded eBay having a "best offer" option.

01-24-2012, 04:13 PM	#9
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by dgaies Given the circumstances, and the fact that I wasn't going to keep it anyway, I'd rather you get the deal that should have been yours. I'll send you a PM when it gets here, which I imagine will be either Thursday or Friday. Ok, the odds on that particular coincidence (both of you watching this forum at the same time) are rather long. And you sir (assuming you are a sir and not a mam) are a gentleman (or whatever).

01-24-2012, 04:20 PM	#10
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by jatrax Ok, the odds on that particular coincidence (both of you watching this forum at the same time) are rather long. And you sir (assuming you are a sir and not a mam) are a gentleman (or whatever). Thanks Well, once the OP created this thread, the odds became a lot more likely as I spend way too much time on here But yeah, I agree, I'm sure when the OP created this thread he figured the likelihood of finding the buyer of the lens he was after was pretty slim.

01-24-2012, 04:21 PM	#11
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,863	Originally posted by dgaies I'm the one who got your sweet deal I wonder what the odds of that happening, both on Ebay and both here.

01-24-2012, 04:30 PM	#12
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Originally posted by dgaies Unfortunately, that's the tricky part about asking a seller to add a buy-it-now price. Once they do it, anyone can buy it Typically when I've done this in the past (both as a buyer and a seller on eBay), we agree on an exact time to add the BIN price so that the buyer is ready as soon as the seller changes the listing. It can be a slight pain to try and coordinate that, but otherwise you run the risk of what the OP described. Ok, instead of buying you a beer, how about I just let you have the lens instead as it seems I'm the one who got your sweet deal Given the circumstances, and the fact that I wasn't going to keep it anyway, I'd rather you get the deal that should have been yours. I'll send you a PM when it gets here, which I imagine will be either Thursday or Friday. Classy, Dan!

01-24-2012, 04:56 PM	#13
ducdao Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Montreal/Vermont Posts: 2,160	Originally posted by jsherman999 Classy, Dan! Sweet! A real gentleman!

01-24-2012, 05:08 PM	#14
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by jsherman999 Classy, Dan! Originally posted by ducdao Sweet! A real gentleman! Thanks guys. I figured a little good karma never hurt anyone

01-24-2012, 05:10 PM	#15
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Originally posted by dgaies Thanks guys. I figure a little good karma never hurt anyone I agree. Now, if you happen to run across an FA 135 f/2.8 for $250 BIN or so, snatch it up, shoot me a PM and I'll help you keep that karma going!