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02-06-2012, 03:52 AM   #271
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QuoteOriginally posted by Frogfish Quote
US$1,500 - 2,000. Nikons' 400mm/5.6 is listed as US$1,200 I believe.
and their 500 4.0 is 8 grand

so is canons


i would bet on more like 3500-4000 for a 550 even at 5.6

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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
and their 500 4.0 is 8 grand

so is canons

i would bet on more like 3500-4000 for a 550 even at 5.6
Haha - sorry if this seems like I'm following you from forum to forum - just a coincidence, honest !

There is a huge difference between f4 and f5.6 in the amount of glass, materials and design required for the lens. If Nikon can produce a 400/5.6 for US$1,200 I honestly can't see any way a Pentax 550/5.6 will be $3-4K. Still we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed and wait and see (and pray) !

EDIT : this is an excellent blog post on a Pentax 500 from the much respected Falk Lomo, who forecasts that is will be around $2k) :-
http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2011/04/hypothetical-pentax-dfa-500mm-f56-edif.html

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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
DA21/3.2 from M20/4, DA40/2.8 from M40/2.8, DFA100/2.8 from FA100/2.8?
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19 pages of responses for lenses that have no real specs and do not even exist yet. Focal length of zooms and fixed lenses are discussed...

Telewise, the dot should amrk a 500 or 600 mm lens. Considering that neither a 2x converter, nor a 300 mm lens (i.e. 2.8) is on the list, the long telephoto lens will not start a new line of wide apeture lenses, but rather something like a f/4.5 to f/5.6 lens. It would fit my bag as well as my back. That could be a cool lens - at some piont a 300/600 larger aperture combo would be interesting for a serious system though.
What is really missing on that list is a larger aperture wide angle prime. Difficult to design, but come on. All other lenses appear like standard stuff, not really being missed.

DA, DA* Pentax will let you know as soon as the lenses really exist, most of them will be not weather sealed, some wuill be SDM, at the moment we can assume on the otehr hand that FF or FA lenses are no option.


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One of my frustrations is that they aren't making more lenses WR. Imo it should be a big selling point since the flagship (APSC) model is WR. What good is WR camera if you only offer a handful of WR lenses?

And cost can't be a huge factor since they are able to offer the 18-55 WR for $150.

I just got sprayed at a water/light show tonight with my K200D and DA15. Everything is fine and I wasn't that concerned but I would feel more reassured if the lens was WR.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
Son of FA20-35/4 may be Pentax's quick-and-dirty answer to our requests for a prime in the 24-28mm range.
Since it won't be as fast as we'd like, they're calling it "Limited."

Most likely. It will be small. But what I will like to see is the lens being 2.0 or faster lens andwesather sealed.
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QuoteOriginally posted by abacus07 Quote
One of my frustrations is that they aren't making more lenses WR. Imo it should be a big selling point since the flagship (APSC) model is WR. What good is WR camera if you only offer a handful of WR lenses?

And cost can't be a huge factor since they are able to offer the 18-55 WR for $150.

I just got sprayed at a water/light show tonight with my K200D and DA15. Everything is fine and I wasn't that concerned but I would feel more reassured if the lens was WR.
given no spec on the roadmap aside from generalities are there what makes you think none will be WR?
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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
given no spec on the roadmap aside from generalities are there what makes you think none will be WR?
I'm basing it more on the current selection of lenses and it's really a gripe about the current selection of lenses. Maybe there is some design feature that makes it difficult to update the DA ltd's but it should be a huge selling point and it would add relatively little cost to $500+ lenses.

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QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
19 pages of responses for lenses that have no real specs and do not even exist yet. Focal length of zooms and fixed lenses are discussed...

Telewise, the dot should amrk a 500 or 600 mm lens. Considering that neither a 2x converter, nor a 300 mm lens (i.e. 2.8) is on the list, the long telephoto lens will not start a new line of wide apeture lenses, but rather something like a f/4.5 to f/5.6 lens. It would fit my bag as well as my back.
Of course it will be f4 or f5.6 - nobody makes a 500/2.8 and if they did you'd need a car to carry it because you couldn't ! A 500/5.6 will be half the size and less than half the price of a 500/4 so my money is on the f5.6.
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QuoteOriginally posted by abacus07 Quote
I'm basing it more on the current selection of lenses and it's really a gripe about the current selection of lenses. Maybe there is some design feature that makes it difficult to update the DA ltd's but it should be a huge selling point and it would add relatively little cost to $500+ lenses.
I agree for the need for more WR lenses, but we have been crippled by hoya for a while
This map looks like it resurrects a bunch of things Hoya killed for the most part - and they did say subject to change. while some items mayy drop off the map, i imagine it will be more likely to see items added as the engineer compliment grows back to where it was and manufacturing capacity grows (As I'm sure it will)

I think the UWA and the long (ie 100-300) zoom are both SW candidates at the same level as the 18-135 with the same dc motor for that matter. Possible the Teleconverter is as well
if you look at it that way 3 lenses and the teleconverter would then give you full wr coverage from 10-420. Though many of us are prime users Zooms are still the market demand and need attention to lure the new users.
i think WR primes will come as older ones are updated and missing FL are announced. The idea that WR isn't high cost may have nothing to do with why it's mostly restricted to the higher price lenses. they also want to encourage you to buy up
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I'd like to see Pentax copy the Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G zoom, make it about 90% as sharp as it and sell it for $1200 or less.
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Oui, s'il vous plait Pentax, plus d'opitques "WR" ...

QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
I agree for the need for more WR lenses, but we have been crippled by hoya for a while
Bonjour,

I would agree and would be a big fan of future WR's ... let's cross our collective fingers, because I think that this is a "niche" segment that Pentax could exploit even further ... for me it's a reassuring and positive asset to the roadmap.

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QuoteOriginally posted by slackercruster Quote
I'd like to see Pentax copy the Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G zoom, make it about 90% as sharp as it and sell it for $1200 or less.
12-24 nikon is a FF lens. not much chance of a Pentax FF 12-24 2.8 being much cheaper i would think. and apsc 12-24 3.5 or 2.8 wr may be 12-1300 though
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QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
19 pages of responses for lenses that have no real specs and do not even exist yet. Focal length of zooms and fixed lenses are discussed...
Considering how long we've been without a lens roadmap, this makes sense - it's good to see that so many of us care.
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June 2011 - A Pentax Rep in France said ...

Bonsoir,

Back in June, I cornered a Pentax Rep and she said that a 18-200mm would be coming out soon (end of year 2011) plus a mirrorless product ... see: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/147766-pentax-rep-france-said-today.html

I was skeptical about this lens range, but if you look at the new roadmap, it's there ... bigger than Dallas, as we used to say down south!

Also the K-01 was just announced.

So, I'm guessing this new lens release was postponed due to the Ricoh buy-out and now the "green light" has been given.

What's funny is that the same Rep stated that no TC's were on the horizon ... and that thinking has obviously changed (for the better IMHO).

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