Quote: Catch someone in a bad mood and a lens is rated down, catch them just after getting laid and everything gets a 10 !
My method of using the forum ratings is 1. don't look at anything with less than 25 posts... 2. Take the score minus 5 , no one rates anything under 5 anyway. If you look at at 8 out of 10 as 3 out of 5, it makes a lot more sense. It's really irritating when there are 3 posts and everything is a 10. Especially when you look at MTF chard, croma charts and distortion charts and perfect scores are very rare. In fact on the photozone 10mp MTF charts there are probably 5 lenses that have a 2350 score at any Fstop and even they have one "perfect score" out of 5 listed f-stops. Regardless of everyone saying you can't trust those scores, at least the guy did something. He had access to all the lenses he tested. He made up some kind of criteria and he applied it equally to each lens he had. So you really can't say the scores mean nothing. If you look at the hundreds or thousands of each lens produced, you also have to realize that if he tested one, there's a pretty good chance theone you get may not test the same as the one he had. The are a bit of evidence to use in your search. However I disagree that you can't look at test scores and user ratings and make yourself a list. The world I did on the DA*60-250 and Tammy 90 macro got me two very good lenses.
Whether or not you can go further than look for a lens that people like to use with an MTF sweet spot I don't know? And Idon't know what you can do about that. I tried a Sigma 120-400 in the store and it looked like everything I wanted. I got it home and it was soft in the long end. Sometimes it takes getting out in real shooting conditions to decide. That's where my lack of ability to rent Pentax equipment really hurts.
Anyway....the 31 is still the leader, based on reputation and it's performance on photozone's MTF charts, where the lens manages to keep it's center and borders in excellent range over 3 f-stops with one near perfect score. Re-cjecking the numbers on the Sigma 17-50 I can see the edge softness discussed above... the Tamron's center highs are in teh excellent range, but not as high as the Sigma.'s but the Sigma has no borders in the excellent range.
So here's what I've decided so far... 31 ltd... best overall quality and real sweet spot and excellent borders (hard to find)...but pricey.
Tammy 17-50 Excellent over an unbelieveable range if you're used to looking at these score, both excellent centres and excellent borders, but no real sweet spot ...best bang per buck by a wide margin.
Sigma 17-50 sweet spot but way too much fall off on the borders, very few borders in excellent range.
Pentax DA* 17-50 excellent center scores huge fall off borders and edges, no excellent borders anywhere in it range.. 16 mm centre sweet spot weak at 50mm...WR
Pentax DA 35 macro very sharp centers but no borders in the excellent range, the centre sweet spot is incredible from f 3.2 to F8 not falling out of the excellent range until f-11 and still very close.
Because of their borders, you have to put the SIgma and DA* and DA 35 macro into more of a portrait or studio setting than landscape where you want excellent across the whole image.
So that leaves me with the 31 and the Tammy 17-50 with very similar numbers and the Tammy with a lot more range.
Next I need to look at some pictures.
Tammy 17mm @ 5.6
It doesn't have the blues and greens, nor give the impression of lush, full colours, that an SMC Pentax lens does, though is otherwise fine for colour and saturation. Images tend to look like they have a lot of yellows and browns.
FA 31 Ltd. 1.8
I think reading through the reviews the biggest thing pushing me towards the 31 Ltd over the Tamron 17-50 would be the superior bokeh.. and if you're selling your images that's a big thing. But I'm seriously thinking of picking up both these lenses.