Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version 1 Like Search this Thread
02-20-2012, 05:45 AM   #1
Pentaxian
bilybianca's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Hassleholm, Sweden
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 334
Focus shift with fast lenses

In another thread lytrytyr pointed out the possible problem of focus shift when focusing fast lenses like my A*85mm f1.4. As I never had heard of this problem before I was puzzled. Doing my homework I found that the problem has been described, like here and here, but I was still as puzzled. If this was a common problem with fast lenses, why had no one even mentioned it in the lengthy praisals of lenses such as the A*/FA* 85mm f1.4 or the A*135mm f1.8? Not to mention the M/A/F/FA 50mm f1.4 lenses.

Only one thing to do. Print a test chart, pull out the tripod and start testing. I have two (well, three, but the F and FA fifties are basically the same) f1.4 lenses, the A* 85mm and the F 50mm.

Tripod 2 sec mirror lock up. Focused manually at f1.4. No refocusing when stopped down. The words "Focus here" in center of original picture. Pictures converted to jpg and pp-ed with auto contrast in Photoshop, no sharpening. Resized and cropped for forum posting. Here's the result, starting with the 50mm.


F 50mm f1.4@f1.4

Name:  50mm f1,4.jpg
Views: 1368
Size:  318.1 KB


F 50mm f1.4@f2

Name:  50mm f2,0.jpg
Views: 954
Size:  329.0 KB


F 50mm f1.4@f2.8

Name:  50mm f2,8.jpg
Views: 1427
Size:  362.1 KB


As you can see, there is a bit of focus shift, but the intended focus still sharp due to increased DOF. The tiny focus shift also looks a bit stronger due to a slight back focus to start with. We're talking of fractions of mm's here. I'd say that with this lens, the focus shift problem is measurable but hardly a real life issue.

A*85mm in next post.

02-20-2012, 06:02 AM - 1 Like   #2
Pentaxian
bilybianca's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Hassleholm, Sweden
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 334
Original Poster
The 85mm proved to be easier to focus. Not a surprise perhaps, because of the enlargement due to longer FL, but also due to the longer throw and better damping of the focus ring.


A* 85mm f1.4@1.4

Name:  85 mm f1,4.jpg
Views: 802
Size:  295.4 KB


A* 85mm f1.4@2.0

Name:  85mm f2,0.jpg
Views: 818
Size:  302.3 KB


A* 85mm f1.4@2.8

Name:  85mm f2,8.jpg
Views: 901
Size:  343.2 KB


Pentax lens engineering at it's peak. I can't see any focus shift at all, can you? To my knowledge, there is no aspherical lens element in this lens. As I have understood it, AL is mainly used in WA lenses. Can it be that focus shift is a problem that decreases with increased focal length?

Apparently, the problem I had with getting the focus right wasn't due to focus shift, but to the Pentax matte focus screen. That's why my problem was solved when I exhanged it. Read about that here.

Looking forwards to the comments from other, and more knowledgeable, users of fast lenses.

Kjell
02-20-2012, 09:21 AM   #3
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
jatrax's Avatar

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Washington Cascades
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 12,991
I am not sure the test of the 50mm shows focus shift. To me it looks more like you were back focused on the 1.4 shot and stopping down just improved the DOF but kept the focus point the same which to me looks like about half way between the "focus here" and back 2mm mark.
02-20-2012, 12:10 PM   #4
Veteran Member
wlachan's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Canada
Photos: Albums
Posts: 2,625
I can't comment on specific lens but some fast lenses do shift focus when stopped down (not just Pentax). This has to do with optical designs, or limitations. I know this shift might be compensated by AF for some lenses. For instance, the DA14 AF will choose a closer focus from f5.6 than wider aperture.

Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
50mm, bit, f1.4, focus, focus shift, k-mount, lenses, pentax lens, puzzled, shift, slr lens, tripod

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is Quick Shift Focus System? zhang8865 Pentax K-r 19 07-12-2012 02:57 PM
slow / fast focus k5 kupec Pentax K-5 & K-5 II 2 06-17-2011 10:56 AM
Aperture-dependant focus shift....? jaieger Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 5 02-15-2011 12:03 AM
How fast focus in 55-300mm any better new lenses what reach 300mm ? jpq Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 2 08-20-2010 07:19 PM
FA lenses don't quick shift focus? nostatic Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 7 03-15-2008 10:48 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:43 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top