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03-05-2012, 10:32 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by normhead Quote
I don't mind the kit lens, and getting the 18-135 as an upgrade was pretty meaningless, it's a better walk around lens but I really don't notice much if any difference in IQ in the 18-50 range. We have two kit lenses and the older one is the better lens I think. You really have to try out what you've got to see what's better. Individual copies seem to vary a lot.
Very much so, I think that's a big reason why there is such a variation in opinion about the kit lens.

03-05-2012, 10:38 AM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by matt_not_andrew Quote
I've already found my other recently acquired lens's suffer badly from lens flare - a pentax m 50 1.7 and another pentax m 28 2.4. I think a 49mm lens hood from eBay might be on the cards.
Do you mean the M 28/2.8? There isn't a 2.4.

If you plan on buying a single lens hood to use with both lenses, you might want to go with something better than the generic $3 rubber hoods from eekbay. The 2 cheapies I've bought developed a tendency where the rubber separates from the metal attachment ring when swapped among lenses to often. I bought a Hoya 49mm lens hood for $15 on eekbay and it is much sturdier.

Hoya 49mm Screw-In Rubber Zoom Lens Hood for 35mm to H49RH B&H
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Absolutely right - 28mm 2.8.
I think I'll go for one of the rectangular ones or something that's reversible.

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Optically DAL=DA, DA II is upgrade to DA/DAL, and DA WR = DA II
at pixel peep level, yes, the DA II is better than DA/DAL
you can see the comparsion here
Pentax smc DA 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 AL II review - Image resolution - Lenstip.com

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QuoteOriginally posted by liukaitc Quote
Optically DAL=DA, DA II is upgrade to DA/DAL, and DA WR = DA II
at pixel peep level, yes, the DA II is better than DA/DAL
you can see the comparsion here
Pentax smc DA 18-55 mm f/3.5-5.6 AL II review - Image resolution - Lenstip.com
That is incorrect, the DA L uses the same optical formula as the DA II and DA WR - 11 elements, 8 groups.

The original DA 18-55 has 12 elements, 9 groups.
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QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
That is incorrect, the DA L uses the same optical formula as the DA II and DA WR - 11 elements, 8 groups.

The original DA 18-55 has 12 elements, 9 groups.
ok, sorry about that
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