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06-20-2012, 10:59 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
ahahahahahahaha



he did say he's on a budget. never mind finding one of these puppies is not easy. they are also far superior on a FF (ie film since no sensor is there to use them) for fully functional tilt shift on apsc it would need to be wider than the 28 (that being said I have been looking at one in a local shop it's just more than i will spend for it at the moment)
Well the FA 31 Limited is usually available for cheaper than the shift lens I bet it would be pretty good too!

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QuoteOriginally posted by miltona580 Quote
Well the FA 31 Limited is usually available for cheaper than the shift lens I bet it would be pretty good too!
there are the harteblei T/S as well but like the Pentax they aren't wide enough for apsc. that would be why Canon has the 17 now.

For architecture it's always an issue. if you can get far enough back use a longer lens and stitch. If you can't go wide but the correction in PS will present its own issues

Best solution sell everything and get a 4x5.

the carbon infinity is a mere 3.3 kg without lens or film mags piece of cake for a walk around

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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
Best solution sell everything and get a 4x5.

RUBBISH! you NEED an 8X10! the use of longer focal lengths that 8X10 format requires delivers the additional boon of compressing the subject, not to mention the fact that with a decent lens, a good photographic emulsion and providing proper developing technique is used it is quite possible to crop an 8"X10" image down to 6X7 without any significant loss of detail - though that only stands for printing at 13X19".

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RUBBISH! you NEED and 8X10! the use of longer focal lengths that 8X10 format requires delivers the additional boon of compressing the subject, not to mention the fact that with a decent lens, a good photographic emulsion and providing proper developing technique is used it is quite possible to crop an 8"X10" image down to 6X7 without any significant loss of detail - though that only stands for printing at 13X19".
LOL, but the film is a little harder to come by now days

4x5 is still pretty easy to find

of course you could always get a digital back fabbed for the 8x10 cam it has been done. just may need to sell a few things to pay for it (like your house and firstborn)

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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
fully functional tilt shift on apsc it would need to be wider than the 28
For wide landscape work, full shift horizontal one way, rotate lens 180 degrees so full shift other way, then combine and stitch in pp works just fine.

Someone cleverer than me, will be able to work out the mm width in lens speak for apsc or ff using for this technique, but sure seems pretty wide.
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Greetings.
THanks for all the good advice! Judging from the review of the Pentax 17-70 on Photozone ("At 17mm and 24mm the center performance is superb and the border quality is easily on a very good level. At f/4 the extreme borders are a little softer at 17mm but stopping down resolves the problem."), I think I will go with this one. I expect it will surpass my nice Pentax 16-45 in most respects.
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I much preferred my 16-45mm to my kit lens. I found it noticeable wider, quite low vignetting and distortion, and sharper across the image especially the edges. The 16-45 has purple fringing which cleans up easily, whereas the kit lens (or at least, both my copies) had smeary chromatic aberration towards the edges. However the Tamron 17-50 is a very versatile, sharp lens which is sharper at larger apertures than the 16-45, which I found best at about f8.
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Well, after much research, I may take my chances with the Pentax 17-70, only because of the great alleged sharpness at mid focal lengths and apertures, plus the longer reach compared to my 16-45. I may also go with a Sigma 8-16 for ultra-wide, and take a Pentax prime such as the 43 or 70 pancake. (The DA* 16-50 and 50-135 will have to wait!:-^)

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