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05-07-2012, 01:58 AM   #1
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Best lens to add to line up?

I already have an 18-55mm DA 2 (which I barely use), a 55mm f2, which goes to 70mm on my K-r, and a 135mm (should go to around 200m) on order. Can't help feeling there is something missing… Can anyone recommend a final lens?

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Ultrawide. 10-20ish zoom (or potentially the DA15, though that's not 'ultra').

Or anything very fast - f1.4ish.
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Mmm. I was thinking about a fast one… possibly fisheye, if I'm brave… thanks
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QuoteOriginally posted by gilsouthwood Quote
which goes to 70mm
Firstly. Forget this... You have a 55mm-f2 and a 135mm (assuming 2.8).

In terms of focal length your wide and normal-wide are absent... A 28mm-2.8 would be useful (or a 24mm)...

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I already have my 18-55mm?

hmm… I'll start looking...
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assuming manual isn't a problem, i would suggest a Tarmon 28 or 24 f2 or f2.5. It's way faster than the 18-55 and it's quite good for day to day life and shoots.
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Hi Gil,
Good advice so far....you probably need a moderate wide angle prime to complete your "Trio" of fast primes. This will not only yield finer I.Q. than the kit lens, but be better for low light situations, too.
My suggestions would be, in no particular order;
Kiron 28mm f/2.0
Sigma "Super Wide" 24mm f/2.8
Pentax A 28mm f/2.8
Or, an auto-focus Pentax 24mm/28mm (F, FA or DA) which will cost quite a bit more, but will have some handling advantages.
Good Luck!
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QuoteOriginally posted by rbefly Quote
Hi Gil,
Good advice so far....you probably need a moderate wide angle prime to complete your "Trio" of fast primes. This will not only yield finer I.Q. than the kit lens, but be better for low light situations, too.
My suggestions would be, in no particular order;
Kiron 28mm f/2.0
Sigma "Super Wide" 24mm f/2.8
Pentax A 28mm f/2.8
Or, an auto-focus Pentax 24mm/28mm (F, FA or DA) which will cost quite a bit more, but will have some handling advantages.
I've forgot the Kiron 28/2 ... that i own
it's a very good one too. Lack a bit of contrast, but appart from that, it's good.

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As luck would have it, if manual lenses are acceptable, I have a Kiron 28/2.0 and a Sigma 24/2.8 on the marketplace....

Personally though, I would go with the ultrawide suggestion. I love my DA10-17 fisheye; it's so much fun. The more rectilinear Sigma is also excellent by all accounts, but it is a big dude. The DA15 limited prime is also worth considering: it is quite a bit wider than your 18-55 zoom and is a delightful lens to use with spectacular IQ.

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M*300/4 or A*300/4
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thanks everyone I'm almost definitely going for manual, I was brought up that way, so I guess it's almost natural.
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QuoteOriginally posted by gilsouthwood Quote
I already have an 18-55mm DA 2 (which I barely use), a 55mm f2, which goes to 70mm on my K-r, and a 135mm (should go to around 200m) on order. Can't help feeling there is something missing… Can anyone recommend a final lens?
A focal length is a focal length. A lens doesn't shrink nor stretch when placed on a different camera. So you have an unused 18-55, and will soon have a 55 and a 135, period. Any other additions will depend on what you want to do and how much you have to spend. I like manual lenses. If I were putting together a basic manual prime kit from my accumulation to supplement yours, it would include:

* Zenitar 16/2.8, a fast slightly fishy ultrawide
* Tokina-made 21/3.8, a good wide for streets
* Komine-made 28/2 CFWA, a great 'normal'
* Some decent 35mm, if you like that vicinity
* A fast 85mm 'portrait' or 90-105mm macro

Beyond those, I like my basic AF kit:

* DA10-17, the fisheye zoom that drove me to Pentax
* Tamron 10-24 ultrawide, the best bargain of its ilk
* DA18-250 or its Tamron twin, most flexible superzooms
* FA50/1.4, my only AF prime, my gotta-get-the-shot lens

And a very few specialty bargains:

* Cosina-made 19-35/3.5-4.5, very sharp performer
* F35-70/3.5-4.5, tiny & agile & sharp, a real winner
* FA100-300/4.7-5.8 (silver), a bargain for its reach

But we all have different needs and experiences. Your mileage may vary. Good luck!

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QuoteOriginally posted by gilsouthwood Quote
thanks everyone I'm almost definitely going for manual, I was brought up that way, so I guess it's almost natural.
This works until you get into truly wide territory (think a 24 or wider on your old film camera) there just aren't the old MF options for this territory for the most part though if you want manual focus and fairly reasonable there is the samyang/bower 14mm 2.8 (FOV like a 21 on film). My DA 14 is one of my most used lenses.
For a more moderate wide angle you will find old 20/21mm which can sub in for where you would have used a 28 on film.
the 24 mm mentioned make good substitutes for where you would have shot a 35mm on film. once you get to 28mm you are looking at a widish normal (like say the FA43 on film) anything between 28-40 effectively falls in the range "normal" lenses did on film (42-58)

I agree with the others where you are lacking is in the wide to normal for primes. a 21/24 and a 35 will give you decent coverage at that end (faster than 2.8 rapidly gets more expensive though)
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Forget focal length! What do you see / wanna see in the view finder?

There are thousands of really cheap, really good manual focus lenses out there today. Buy some.

If it's lens FL you're concerned about, spend > $100 on three or four used zoom lenses (the cheaper the better) and shoot a LOT of "no-cost" images and learn what fits your own needs. (If you should learn manual focus and manual exposure skills along the way so much the better -- then you'll know you know.)

*(lots less than the cost of books for a typical collage class today, eh? What'd you pay for them?)

An' there's these things called BOOKS with all sorts of wisdom in 'em, too. (Really cheap today 'cause nobody reads 'em any more)

Personal Experience is the ONLY thing that 'll really satisfy your questions an' tryin' it's truly the only economical way to get smart about it.

H2

(OK, now somebody advise 'im to buy $2000 worth of lenses . . . )
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lol now that is some LBA! I dont think anyone can tell you what lens you need, that is something that you will find out based on your shooting.
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