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06-02-2012, 10:38 AM   #31
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Well i'm thinking of maybe getting the DA18-135 when i don't need the f/2.8 or the image quality but the price is not that great for the lens to be honest... my DA*50-135 was cheaper then the DA18-135 so it's a hard pill to swallow.

The DA*16-50 and DA*50-135 are my concert lenses, i'm often right in front of the stage and on it.
Never did a big gig though but some gigs of decent enough size though.

Golden Earing is probably the best know band i did.

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Well i'm thinking of maybe getting the DA18-135 when i don't need the f/2.8 or the image quality but the price is not that great for the lens to be honest.
That's the issue, I paid $600 for this lens. At $400 I would never say a nasty word about it. At the price of a 35 2.8 macro...or a 21 ltd, it's still a DA zoom. That doesn't seem right.
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I do love the handling of the lens though, i have had the 18-250 but in the half year that i owned it only used it 3 times... i rather used my DA40 and the DFA100 those times before the DA* lenses.
I think i will get some funny looks that i said that i used the DA40 DFA100 more then the 18-250, the DA18-250 certainly was a versatile lens but i almost never needed that, the two primes provided me what i needed and they made photography fun for me. With the DA18-250 it was more like "oh that looks interesting" zoom, click, zoom, click and that was it, it made me lazy as hell. I could go out with only the DFA100, trying to look for things i could photograph, sit on me knees, lay down, get dirty and get home with 200 photos where off 50% were keepers.

Anyway i've used the DA18-135 for a bit and i must say it isn't like the DA18-250 for me, the lens has very good handling something i missed with the 18-250 and it doesn' feel sluggish. I think i can enjoy the DA18-135 simply for the family outings where the photos are taken for the family but i won't use it for anything else... It's really hard to justify the money at the moment indeed.
I hope they make a nice kit offer with the K-3 when it comes out.

Beside that on the roadmap there are some interesting lenses, 20-40 limited lens and a DA*12-80 or something like that which make getting thee DA18-135 with hi medicore performance quite hard for me, since i already have the range covered essentially. I don't need the lens really...
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I own an Da18-135 ,This Below shot was taken at 135mm FL Wide open Iso 80 , This is one of my Abysmal shots



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QuoteOriginally posted by disco_owner Quote
I own an Da18-135 ,This Below shot was taken at 135mm FL Wide open Iso 80 , This is one of my Abysmal shots
If you always use just the center of the image, you'll be okay with the 18-135 @ 135mm. It's the corner resolution that's abysmal.

And if a computer screen is the highest magnification your images will see, the DA18-135 would be fine.
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QuoteOriginally posted by civiletti Quote
If you always use just the center of the image, you'll be okay with the 18-135 @ 135mm. It's the corner resolution that's abysmal.

And if a computer screen is the highest magnification your images will see, the DA18-135 would be fine.
If centre sharpness and corner sharpness was / is an issue for me , I'd pull out the A-135 Prime , this is just a walk around lens and to be honest People expect it to perform miracles for a kit lens , price wasn't to bad either.
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If centre sharpness and corner sharpness was / is an issue for me , I'd pull out the A-135 Prime , this is just a walk around lens and to be honest People expect it to perform miracles for a kit lens , price wasn't to bad either.
The problem is that for example the sigma 18-125 preforms the same for less money, sure it doesn't have WR but it's there is little else the Pentax has going for.

$339 vs $529

If you want this lens you should really buy it as a kit to be honest or else it isn't that interesting.

Like Normhead said, if the pentax cost around the $400 or actually had better image quality we would have nothing to complain about but that isn't the case.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Anvh Quote
The problem is that for example the sigma 18-125 preforms the same for less money, sure it doesn't have WR but it's there is little else the Pentax has going for.

$339 vs $529

If you want this lens you should really buy it as a kit to be honest or else it isn't that interesting.
yeah , sue it has the WR going for it, which has come in handy , I've already used in a rainy days , but I think since the OP is asking opinion on the Pentax kit lens Options then 18-135 IMO is ok choice , had he asked what is a Good Kit lens comparatively for performance vs the Cost , in that case your choice would be more suitable if WR is not important.

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I also suggested the same in the first comment here so don't worry

Was talking about when buying the lens separately.
It depends on how good and expensive the DA* "superzoom" will be or else the DA18-135 might be really in trouble at his current price since it already is a questionable choice now.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Anvh Quote
It depends on how good and expensive the DA* "superzoom" will be or else the DA18-135 might be really in trouble at his current price since it already is a questionable choice now.
Well, I'm afraid Pentax knows how to solve that problem. Just charge a lot more for the new lens, and there will be no conflict!
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Well it's a DA* so...
06-03-2012, 08:44 AM   #42
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Get a fix lens, makes you think more. 35mm is good start.
I second that.

I know this is not what the OP asked, but you will get better pictures. guaranteed.
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I second that.

I know this is not what the OP asked, but you will get better pictures. guaranteed.
IMHO .... absolutely not.

It is his/her first DSLR. A couple of zooms to identify what subjects the OP prefers and at what FLs are preferred and then try a prime to see if it suits, primes are not everyone's cup of tea and could be very off-putting for someone new to DSLRs.
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I must say I agree with Frogfish here. It took me almost a year of using zooms before I found out what primes I wanted. The pictures from my kit lens grouped themselves at 18mm, 30-35mm, and 55mm.

Since I already had zooms covering the wide end (Sigma 10-20) and the tele end (DA 55-300), I first got a 35mm. Liking it a lot I bought a 15mm. And next is probably a 70mm.

Edit: And of course, primes are not for everybody - some people are just happier with zooms. Nothing wrong with that.

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Once again, here's my priority list for building a lens kit:

1) Coverage -- my 10-24 & 18-250 & 170-500 cover about everything
2) Speed -- fast zooms, or primes at critical focal lengths, really help
3) Specialties -- macros, mirrors, fisheyes, etc for special purposes
4) Character -- older slower cheaper primes just render differently
5) Mania -- whatever optical stuff I can jam onto the camera mount!

Start with zooms that cover a useful range. Then note the most-used focal lengths, where you wish you had something faster, and fill those slots. Then ask yourself, "What do I want to do that I can't do with what I have now?" and the answers may lead you to specialty glass. Venture beyond there at your own risk -- you too can own zillions of lenses!

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