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06-04-2012, 10:32 AM   #1
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Weather Sealed

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So we all go out and buy a K5 which is Fabulously weather sealed... it starts raining at a match and you realise you got a Sigma or Tamron lens on! bummer all that weather sealing flexibility gone to waste!! you gotta throw a coat over your camera

Yes there is the DA* lens which are great but where's our 70-300 f2.8 or 50- 200 2.8.... why bother with WR on the body when the lens isnt! ??

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QuoteOriginally posted by Andrew2208 Quote
why bother with WR on the body when the lens isnt!
While you are correct, having the body WR means that water is not going to get in through the seals around the buttons, LCD and so on. Yes it could still get in through the lens mount, but IMO that is easier to protect if you have to. And there is the DA*300 if you need that range in the rain.

And AFAIK no one makes a 70-300 f/2.8 WR or not. I would be interested in seeing how much that costs if it existed.

Obviously, the best solution is to use WR or DA* lenses but I am not going to give up my WR body just because all my lenses are not WR.
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Right, throw a cheap plastic bag over the lens and shoot away secure in the knowledge that your camera is safe and your lens wasn't in that much danger anyhow and is now protected without compromising usability.
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Some consider WR only a second line of defense (in case the plastic bag gets damaged). I don't have a problem using non WR lenses in pissing rain.

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I imagine the 60-250 would be exactly what you are looking for..? I mean, sure it's 1 stop slower, but that k-5's high ISO is good enough.
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Fact 1: There is a 120-300 2.8 from Sigma. Weight: 2.5 kg.

Fact 2: There is a 50-200 2.8-3.5. For M4/3.

Fact 3: They are not sealed. Ass gaskets don't count.
Fact 4: There are very nice 50-135 and 200 2.8 from Pentax. Also the 300/4.
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light to moderate rain just cover the mount/lens join with gaffer tape (light rain won't be an issue for the lens usually), heavy rain add saran or a plastic bag all the way up the lens. done.

I use non wr lenses in the rain all the time. light rain i just keep an eye on thing, heavier i start with the above (I shot in the on and off rain all weekend with a tak 35 - which i am sure has been seeing rain use since the 60's
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QuoteOriginally posted by Andrew2208 Quote
Hi,

So we all go out and buy a K5 which is Fabulously weather sealed... it starts raining at a match and you realise you got a Sigma or Tamron lens on! bummer all that weather sealing flexibility gone to waste!! you gotta throw a coat over your camera

Yes there is the DA* lens which are great but where's our 70-300 f2.8 or 50- 200 2.8.... why bother with WR on the body when the lens isnt! ??
I'm sorry, but this sounds a little trollish to me?

Anyway, Pentax has the widest variety of sealed lenses available from any manufacturer. They range from the (cheap) 18-55 WR and 50-200 WR, to the DA * lenses (16-50, 50-135, 60-250, 55, 200, and 300). There is even a weather sealed macro (100 mm).

Beyond all this, having a sealed body is definitely worth something, even if your lens isn't sealed and as Marc said, you can put a baggy over your lens...

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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
tak 35 - which i am sure has been seeing rain use since the 60's
Made me smile, thanks!

QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
I'm sorry, but this sounds a little trollish to me?
Thought the same thing, but maybe not, it is a fair question if you are not used to being out in the rain and weather. If you are then you have figured out how to deal with it. Being out in the woods in bad weather is fun if you have the right gear, miserable and dangerous if you don't.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Andrew2208 Quote
70-300 f2.8 or 50- 200 2.8
These lenses do not exist in any form from any manufacturer. The closest are the 70-200 f/2.8s from various manufacturers (the current weather sealed ones from Canikon are $2300+), and the Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 (which costs $3000+ and is not weather sealed). They are designed for FF which needs the reach.

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Thanks for the replys lads! im from Ireland so rain is well here literately every day!!! and im new to Weather sealed equipment i used just not shoot in the rain :P the pentax DA* 50-135 2.8 im gona get and stick a 2x teleconveter on it to get the range i need for my sport photography!
what you on bout trolling I dont see no bridge!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Andrew2208 Quote
the pentax DA* 50-135 2.8 im gona get and stick a 2x teleconveter on it to get the range i need for my sport photography!
$1600 (+ cost of TC) for 100-270 f/5.6

$2000 for 60-250 f/4.

While you still have f/2.8 available on the shorter end, you end up losing speed where you really need it and only gain 20mm on the long end (hardly noticable). It seems a bit pointless to go with the combo just to save $200 or so.
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I think only Olympus 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 come close to it
but that is for 4/3 system.
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My WR kit is the 18-55 + 100 Macro.

There is a nice 18-135 that serves most purposes. There is a 55-200. There are all the * lenses.

We're already decently covered. We could have more WR lenses but no brand offers close to what Pentax has.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Andrew2208 Quote
Thanks for the replys lads! im from Ireland so rain is well here literately every day!!! and im new to Weather sealed equipment i used just not shoot in the rain :P the pentax DA* 50-135 2.8 im gona get and stick a 2x teleconveter on it to get the range i need for my sport photography!
what you on bout trolling I dont see no bridge!
Is there a 2x converter that's WR? If not, then you are still stuck with 50-135 in the rain.

A lot of people love the 60-250 for the broad range it provides, as well as it's quality. It's only a stop slower - if you are shooting outdoors, that won't matter to you.

The 50-135 is a beast indoors though.

QuoteOriginally posted by bdery Quote
My WR kit is the 18-55 + 100 Macro.

There is a nice 18-135 that serves most purposes. There is a 55-200. There are all the * lenses.

We're already decently covered. We could have more WR lenses but no brand offers close to what Pentax has.
I don't think that's completely true. Even though Nikon won't market their lenses as WR, they have quite a ton of lenses with some weather protection:

Film/Digital14-24 f2.8
16-35 f4 VR
24 f1.4 AF-S
24-70 f2.8
24-120 f4VR
28-300 f3.5-5.6 VR
35 f1.4 AF-S
50 f1.4 AF-S
50 f1.8 AF-S
55-300 f4-5.6 VR
70-200 f2.8 (I and II)
85 f1.4 AF-S
200 f2 VR
200-400 f4 VR (I and II)
300 f4VR
400 f2.8 VR
500f4 VR
600f4 VR


DX Digital Only
10-24 f3.5-4.5
12-24 f4
17-55 f2.8
18-200 VR (I and II)
18-70 f3.5-4.5
35 f1.8
60 f2.8 AF-S Micro

Whether or not their WR is as good as Pentax's is something I do not know. But I'm sure there are tons of Nikon pros running their D700s with some of the above lenses outside in the rain.
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