Originally posted by mattdm To be clear, I'm not a "Pentaxian"...
I hope they succeed, both for selfish reasons (I'm invested in the system) and because I think the company has a lot to offer, but also, I can make comments about out-of-touch pricing — apparently a right I wouldn't have if I
were a true Pentaxian.
In any case, it appears I was right in both this post and in the one a while back where I said the sky isn't falling and that there's no way out-of-touch prices could be
sustained — see
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/188901-b-h-price-drops.html (which of course you all have seen by now anyway).
The prices have stabilized; its the constant bitching that is annoying.
People bought into Pentax for a reason; what were they getting 3 years ago that they aren't getting now? Sure, 5-10 years ago there were plenty of FA and f lenses around, but not in the past 3-5 years.
The facts are that current Pentax prices are slightly elevated but not compared to the competition. And now there are new offerings that are even cheaper.
Pentax deserves (significant) criticism on is the elevated prices for the DA* zooms; they never should have cost ~$1499. But the new prices of the DA* zooms are equal to or better than the competition again. Other lens prices are usually better.
To conclude, Pentax prices are higher but there are value lenses out now that did not previously exist and the lenses that are higher priced are still comparable to the competition. I'm going to ignore Canon but here is a side by side comparison based on Amazon.com pricing.
Budget 50/1.8 - Pentax 190 Nikon 140
Budget 35/1.8 - Pentax 182 Nikon 199
Short Tele - Pentax 70 699 Nikon 85 - 549
Budget 50-300 Pentax 359 Nikon 399
Budget 50-200 Pentax 227 Nikon 249
50/1.4 Pentax 349 Nikon 449
Crop 2.8 standard zoom - Pentax 1099 Nikon 1439
Wide Zoom - Pentax 12-24 899 Nikon 10-24 949
Long Tele macro - Pentax 100/2.8 769 Nikon 999
Long Tele 300/4 Pentax 1399 Nikon 1499 (f/2.8 available)
Nikon is slightly cheaper for budget primes while Pentax is slightly cheaper for budget zooms. The prosumer f/2.8 zoom, wide angle zoom and 50/1.4 are all cheaper from Pentax.
In the case of this new Canon pancake, the Pentax offering is slightly more $ but also smaller and lighter. The lenses are comparable and the Pentax has some advantages (as does the Canon). Pentax doesn't need to wake up, users need to realize that their lenses are comparable with some advantages and disadvantages Vs. competitors.