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01-05-2009, 07:59 PM   #361
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This lens really looks attractive saw it on CameraQuest Home. Really thinking of it as being my "walk around lens". But would it be too long? Form factor is 87mm.
You mean focal length or physical length? Focal depends on how you shoot. I ordered one today and hopefully will have it this week to test as a walkaround. Physically it doesn't look too bad. Certainly not as small and light as most of the ltd lenses (the 43ltd spoils you). At 320g is is about twice the weight of a 43ltd, but should be fairly portable.

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This lens has some of the best bokeh I've seen. If I didn't just buy the Cosina 55 1.2, I'd probably be itching to get this.
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When I say too long, I mean the focal length. I come from film rangefinders where a true 50mm was the walk around lens, so going up to 87mm would be new for me. Still I am inclined to go for it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
This lens has some of the best bokeh I've seen. If I didn't just buy the Cosina 55 1.2, I'd probably be itching to get this.
I'll be sure to post some crappy photos when I get it to temper your LBA

I may need a 21 as well...I need something wider than my 35 (damn crop). Hard to pull the trigger on the Zeiss 25/2.8 though...it ain't cheap. The CV is a nice price. If only they'd make a fast 20 or 25...

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When I say too long, I mean the focal length. I come from film rangefinders where a true 50mm was the walk around lens, so going up to 87mm would be new for me. Still I am inclined to go for it.
I've been doing walkaround with the 43 and find it to be pretty good. It is a bit more intimate...just depends on what you're comfortable with. I found with the 31 that I sometimes needed to get a little too close to the action.

The Zeiss 50/1.4 is about the same lens, though it is about $100 more.
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hey, this lens also gets you ready for full frame.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kshapero Quote
This lens really looks attractive saw it on CameraQuest Home. Really thinking of it as being my "walk around lens". But would it be too long? Form factor is 87mm.
I do own one of these lenses and it may be a bit long for a walk-around lens. It may be better suited for portraiture work or in situations of limited depth of field as it is renown for its bokeh rendering qualities. Personally, I prefer a lens of a bit wider angle than the 58mm for casually walks, but it certainly isn't horrible by any measure.
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It highly depends on you. Some people like shorter lengths for walkaround, and some like longer focal lengths. I for one loved the 50mm on my old Nikon system. I even went to the point of using JUST the 50mm for 2 months to push my creativity etc. I grew a lot on that focal length, even if it was long at times. Now I'm challenging myself to just stick to the 21mm, even if it has a bit slow aperture

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OP, get yourself some popcorn and a six pack then settle down and make your way through this thread; https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/20336-voigtlan...-4-nokton.html It will give you some idea of it's capabilities and whether it is the right focal length for what you want it for.
Mine was on my camera for about three months continuously.
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Take out a zoom, fix it to approx 55mm, and try taking some shot's of the things you like to shoot?
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Take out a zoom
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I agree with lbam. Try shooting with your kit lens locked at 55mm, and see what you think of the focal length. 58 isn't that far off from 55. Myself, I found I didn't like the focal length that a true fast fifty creates on a cropped DSLR (my SMC Tak 55/1.8 makes for 82.5mm). Basically you're taking a normal lens and turning it into a short-tele. I much prefered the true 55mm that my Tak provides on my Spotmatic.

Just one man's opinion, however. Try it out and see what you think. If you find it too narrow, the DA40 Ltd might be a contender, at 60mm in 35 equialent. It's a little closer to true fast-fifty territory. Or the DA35 Ltd macro. They're not quite as fast though. There's also the FA43 Ltd.
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Voe did a review on Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f1.4 vs Topcor 58mm f1.4 here

Nokton 58mm vs Topcor 58mm
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What about the Sigma 30mm/f1.4 as a smaller footprint?
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Very different lenses, the Sigma and the Nokton. The Sigma is actually a pretty big lens (it sounds like you're talking physical size), but I found it to be a very practical focal length, and great for indoors. I wore it on my K100D for the better part of a year, and used it for landscapes and low light stuff.

I sold it recently when I bought the Pentax 77 ltd (because then I needed the 31 ltd).

The Sigma's very sharp and the subject isolation at 1.4 is great, but its bokeh is pretty invisible. Some people would prefer that, I guess, but after trying the Pentax limiteds, I prefer the more special rendering of the Pentax.

That's why I say they're very different--the 1.4 is one aspect, but the Nokton has such beautiful bokeh, if you're into that.

There's a Nokton in the Marketplace right now for a decent price. It's manual focus only if that doesn't bother you, but it does produce stunning images. I'm only getting used to manual now, or I might've jumped on the Nokton myself. That, and I'm saving up to see how the DA*55 turns out.
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