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04-26-2008, 10:26 AM   #31
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And here's one with the nokton - can't remember the shutter speed, but looking at the brightness of the scene it should be quite high. The colours are nice, but the resolution's bad. This was at f4.0. Its not immediately obvious, but if you look closely, the image isn't as sharp as its supposed to be



and here's the 100% crop version



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and here's a FA 50/1.4 wide open, at 100% crop for comparison - the FA 50 seems much better!

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I've found the 58 is very sharp for infinity shots, and perhaps a little softer for 'close-focus' stuff, opened-up. No complaints with my copy -

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Here are a few updates from my Nokton 58mm f1.4 since I had it returned from Voe.

The bokeh is the whole fun part of this lens



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knyghtfall, if I may make a comment. You've shot your images primarily on 35mm film using a film camera and got them digitized by means of a scanner. There are a number of variables why you're not getting the sharpness, colour saturation and smooth tonality that you ought to in your images. (film development and scanning issues come to mind).

For this reason, even if you're using top quality glass like the Voigtlander, you're not likely to get the detail, colour, sharpness, tonality and contrast range like the other images that were shot on digital here.

Frankly, you'll get the most out of your collection of top glass when you start shooting digital.
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Very artistic shots Roentarre. The bokehs looks like a canvas of color, well chosen backgrounds.

I've actually considered selling this lens recently. I'm a big fan of close-focus lenses and will see if the Zeiss 50/2 can push the VL58 out of my bag. Mind you, I tried the the same thing with the 25 vs the 31 and liked both for different reasons.
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James, I knew this lens has a great bokeh but the shots you made are simply amazing!
The colours are so rich and true in the same time. Great work!
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QuoteOriginally posted by creampuff Quote
knyghtfall, if I may make a comment. You've shot your images primarily on 35mm film using a film camera and got them digitized by means of a scanner. There are a number of variables why you're not getting the sharpness, colour saturation and smooth tonality that you ought to in your images. (film development and scanning issues come to mind).

For this reason, even if you're using top quality glass like the Voigtlander, you're not likely to get the detail, colour, sharpness, tonality and contrast range like the other images that were shot on digital here.

Frankly, you'll get the most out of your collection of top glass when you start shooting digital.
I also thought that his image appeared to be out of focus as well. It is so easy to be out of focus with this lens.

The bokeh usually turns out poorly with leaves and tree branches like that. None of any lenses could perform well at all.

I used that Nokton 58mm f1.4 on Konica film Impressa 50 which produces some of the best creamy soft bokeh I have ever seen. Much better on digital sensor
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QuoteOriginally posted by thePiRaTE!! Quote
Very artistic shots Roentarre. The bokehs looks like a canvas of color, well chosen backgrounds.

I've actually considered selling this lens recently. I'm a big fan of close-focus lenses and will see if the Zeiss 50/2 can push the VL58 out of my bag. Mind you, I tried the the same thing with the 25 vs the 31 and liked both for different reasons.

thePiRaTE, I had checked out your previous post regarding Zeiss 25 and it was a very good post for me to see. I always wondered what I had been missing out...

Zeiss 50/2 is supposed to be legendary and I heard similar reports regarding 55mm as well.

My current thought process regarding all the 50mm lenses is a bit cynical. Most are not that much different and it all comes down to overall IQ and bokeh where it is subjected to individual taste.

Looking forward to your posts regarding Sumicron 50/2
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