Which combo?

HoBykoYan · 06-20-2012, 01:16 AM

Hi to all,

1st combo:
I currently own the DA 70 and love everything about it (IQ, weight, build, bokeh) and can easily get access to a 55mm (preferred this focal better than 50mm) 1.8/2 for low light (love shooting anything in low-light).

2nd combo:
Heard lots of good things about the Samyang 85 1.4 (can get the Rokinon/Polar anytime). Tested few shots, love the bokeh and low light capabilities better than the DA 70 and a better choice for portrait on my part (love taking portraits...) Can combine this with the DA 35 2.4 for IQ and weight...

In your opinion which combo is better / more versatile (all-around)? Considering IQ, Bokeh, Low-light, Street photog.. and Weight?

Thanks

**crewl1** · 06-20-2012, 01:31 AM

For your stated needs I stay with da70 and get da35 2.4.

Mainly for size and focus speed.

Samyang 85 is large and manual focus.

That's just me.

HoBykoYan · 06-20-2012, 01:59 AM

@crewl1:
Thanks for your prompt reply, appreciate it...
forgot to mention that the 2 combos are almost at the same price hence the combo comparison.
Only DA 70, 55mm manual or DA 35, 85mm manual... or even DA 40 XS

aurele · 06-20-2012, 05:03 AM

i would take the 70, and try to add either the DA 35/2.4 or 40XS.

I use often the DA 55/1.4 on film, and it's a pain to get perfectly in focus shot with basic focusing screen.

You will have the same kind of difficulty to exploit fully the aperture value under f2.

seventysixersfan · 06-20-2012, 07:05 AM

you said

Quote:

DA 70 and love everything about it (IQ, weight, build, bokeh)

sounds like 40XS would be nice or a DA 40 -- same quality metal build and IQ is excellent. DA 35 f/2.4 has great IQ but size is not pancake-y, and the build is plastic-y

RioRico · 06-20-2012, 07:12 AM

IMHO the 70/2.4 (AOV= 23 degrees) and 35/2.4 (AOV= 44 degrees) make the best pairing. The 55/1.8 (AOV= 29 degrees) and 85/1.4 (AOV= 19 degrees) have views too similar to the 70. And for low light, a 35/2.4 actually stops motion better than a 55/1.8 or 85/1.4 or 40/2.8 (AOV= 39 degrees). The main feature of those longer 'faster' lenses is their much thinner DOF and thus trickier focusing. The main feature of the 40XS is its tiny size, but it hasn't quite the speed nor motion-stopping of the 35/2.4. If your goal is a low-light lens, the 35/2.4 is the best. If you can stretch your budget, you might even think of the FA35/2 or a manual 28/2 like one of the Vivitars.

EDIT: C'mon somebody, ask me for my "motion-stopping lens" rant!

seventysixersfan · 06-20-2012, 07:19 AM

ah yes, agreed, for low light you would want faster than 2.8, so skip over the 40mm choices and go for either DA 2.4 or FA 35. or maybe even FA 43 or FA 31 if you can afford it!

HoBykoYan · 06-20-2012, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by RioRico

And for low light, a 35/2.4 actually stops motion better than a 55/1.8 or 85/1.4 or 40/2.8 (AOV= 39 degrees). The main feature of those longer 'faster' lenses is their much thinner DOF and thus trickier focusing. The main feature of the 40XS is its tiny size, but it hasn't quite the speed nor motion-stopping of the 35/2.4. If your goal is a low-light lens, the 35/2.4 is the best.

EDIT: C'mon somebody, ask me for my "motion-stopping lens" rant!

Hi RioRico,

i really need your explanation on this motion-stopping thing. thanks

HoBykoYan · 06-20-2012, 08:34 PM

Just research everything about the plastic wonder and RioRico is right, i guess the DA35/DA70 combo is a better option. I just don't get the motion-stopping notion yet (hoping RioRico will give me a detail explanation... thanks in advance)

06-20-2012, 01:16 AM	#1
HoBykoYan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: HCMC Posts: 271	Which combo? Hi to all, 1st combo: I currently own the DA 70 and love everything about it (IQ, weight, build, bokeh) and can easily get access to a 55mm (preferred this focal better than 50mm) 1.8/2 for low light (love shooting anything in low-light). 2nd combo: Heard lots of good things about the Samyang 85 1.4 (can get the Rokinon/Polar anytime). Tested few shots, love the bokeh and low light capabilities better than the DA 70 and a better choice for portrait on my part (love taking portraits...) Can combine this with the DA 35 2.4 for IQ and weight... In your opinion which combo is better / more versatile (all-around)? Considering IQ, Bokeh, Low-light, Street photog.. and Weight? Thanks

06-20-2012, 07:12 AM	#6
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	IMHO the 70/2.4 (AOV= 23 degrees) and 35/2.4 (AOV= 44 degrees) make the best pairing. The 55/1.8 (AOV= 29 degrees) and 85/1.4 (AOV= 19 degrees) have views too similar to the 70. And for low light, a 35/2.4 actually stops motion better than a 55/1.8 or 85/1.4 or 40/2.8 (AOV= 39 degrees). The main feature of those longer 'faster' lenses is their much thinner DOF and thus trickier focusing. The main feature of the 40XS is its tiny size, but it hasn't quite the speed nor motion-stopping of the 35/2.4. If your goal is a low-light lens, the 35/2.4 is the best. If you can stretch your budget, you might even think of the FA35/2 or a manual 28/2 like one of the Vivitars. EDIT: C'mon somebody, ask me for my "motion-stopping lens" rant! Last edited by RioRico; 06-20-2012 at 09:00 AM.

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06-20-2012, 01:31 AM	#2
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	For your stated needs I stay with da70 and get da35 2.4. Mainly for size and focus speed. Samyang 85 is large and manual focus. That's just me.

06-20-2012, 01:59 AM	#3
HoBykoYan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: HCMC Posts: 271 Original Poster	@crewl1: Thanks for your prompt reply, appreciate it... forgot to mention that the 2 combos are almost at the same price hence the combo comparison. Only DA 70, 55mm manual or DA 35, 85mm manual... or even DA 40 XS

06-20-2012, 05:03 AM	#4
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	i would take the 70, and try to add either the DA 35/2.4 or 40XS. I use often the DA 55/1.4 on film, and it's a pain to get perfectly in focus shot with basic focusing screen. You will have the same kind of difficulty to exploit fully the aperture value under f2.

06-20-2012, 07:05 AM	#5
seventysixersfan Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,054	you said Quote: DA 70 and love everything about it (IQ, weight, build, bokeh) sounds like 40XS would be nice or a DA 40 -- same quality metal build and IQ is excellent. DA 35 f/2.4 has great IQ but size is not pancake-y, and the build is plastic-y

06-20-2012, 07:19 AM	#7
seventysixersfan Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,054	ah yes, agreed, for low light you would want faster than 2.8, so skip over the 40mm choices and go for either DA 2.4 or FA 35. or maybe even FA 43 or FA 31 if you can afford it!

06-20-2012, 08:25 PM	#8
HoBykoYan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: HCMC Posts: 271 Original Poster	Originally posted by RioRico And for low light, a 35/2.4 actually stops motion better than a 55/1.8 or 85/1.4 or 40/2.8 (AOV= 39 degrees). The main feature of those longer 'faster' lenses is their much thinner DOF and thus trickier focusing. The main feature of the 40XS is its tiny size, but it hasn't quite the speed nor motion-stopping of the 35/2.4. If your goal is a low-light lens, the 35/2.4 is the best. EDIT: C'mon somebody, ask me for my "motion-stopping lens" rant! Hi RioRico, i really need your explanation on this motion-stopping thing. thanks

06-20-2012, 08:34 PM	#9
HoBykoYan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: HCMC Posts: 271 Original Poster	Just research everything about the plastic wonder and RioRico is right, i guess the DA35/DA70 combo is a better option. I just don't get the motion-stopping notion yet (hoping RioRico will give me a detail explanation... thanks in advance)