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06-21-2012, 10:39 AM   #1
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Please help me with this lens choice..

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At July 5th I can finally buy me new K5 Unfortunately I'm still (for about 7 months) stuck at what lens to buy. My budget for lenses is approximately <400 euro's. The race is between the following lens combinations:
  1. DA 18-50mm (20) + DA 55-300 (300)
  2. Tamron 17-50 F2.8 (300) + DA 18-55 (because it's so cheap and has WR)
  3. DA 18-135 (350)

I already have a SMC-M 50mm/1.7 + SMC-M 28mm/2.8 + SMC-A 50mm/1.7.

What should I do? Thanks!!

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For my use, the 18-55 + DA 55-300 combo would be the best.

Do you plan to shoot in the rain, snow or a dusty environment? Do you want to photograph animals, or indulge in any other photography that would require a 300mm focal length?

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you've got some decent primes for iq and low light so I'd grab the 18-135wr to get a good range covered with WR. You might sell one of the 50's and combine it with any leftover funds and grab say an smc-m 200 4.0 for the long end
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QuoteOriginally posted by Tomm Quote
Hi!

At July 5th I can finally buy me new K5 Unfortunately I'm still (for about 7 months) stuck at what lens to buy. My budget for lenses is approximately <400 euro's. The race is between the following lens combinations:
  1. DA 18-50mm (20) + DA 55-300 (300)
  2. Tamron 17-50 F2.8 (300) + DA 18-55 (because it's so cheap and has WR)
  3. DA 18-135 (350)

I already have a SMC-M 50mm/1.7 + SMC-M 28mm/2.8 + SMC-A 50mm/1.7.

What should I do? Thanks!!
That depends on what kind of photography you prefer, and how much you intend to spend in the future. It all depends on priorities.

1) Balanced kit with best coverage. Best option if you want to take telephoto pictures, and aren't likely to spend more in the future.
2) Highest quality pictures via zoom.
3) Most flexibility in a single lens.



What are you most likely to photo? Wildlife, street, studio. What sort of focal lengths do you want? How important is the highest quality to you as opposed to flexibility? Remembering that you have nice standard primes, do you need a high-quality standard zoom?

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What do you want from your next lens, what shortcomings have you encountered in your current ones?
06-21-2012, 12:30 PM   #6
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QuoteOriginally posted by Tomm Quote
I already have a SMC-M 50mm/1.7 + SMC-M 28mm/2.8 + SMC-A 50mm/1.7. What should I do?
Sounds like you already have a great kit. If I were you I would look into the DA 15mm or tele lens. Depends what your needs are, though.
From the recommendations in this thread, I think the one for 18-135 WR is best, though.
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For my use, the 18-55 + DA 55-300 combo would be the best.

Do you plan to shoot in the rain, snow or a dusty environment? Do you want to photography animals, or indulge in any other photography that would require a 300mm focal length?
Problem is that I don't know at what focal lengths I'm going to shoot yet. I've never owned a SLR myself.. At this moment I don't have plans to shoot animals or something like it. I think I won't need the 300mm, but I think I need more then 50mm.. I like the change in perspective of the background when zoomed in on a subject (background gets blown up/bigger). Furthermore I really love small DOF, so for that the Tamron is great.

For some reasons I don't like the 18-135 shots I've seen so far. Don't take me wrong, technically the shots are fine but they seem somewhat 2-dimensional.

As Alphanerd is suggesting I could better go for the package I could grow with at produces good quality images. I will probably pick up the DA18-55 and later on the 17-50 f2.8.

Thanks guys!
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Or get the 100mm WR macro. But it sounds like you have a case of lba! You should really go and use what you have and then buy according to the needs you discover while.. you know.. photographing.

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QuoteOriginally posted by alphanerd Quote
That depends on what kind of photography you prefer, and how much you intend to spend in the future. It all depends on priorities.

1) Balanced kit with best coverage. Best option if you want to take telephoto pictures, and aren't likely to spend more in the future.
2) Highest quality pictures via zoom.
3) Most flexibility in a single lens.



What are you most likely to photo? Wildlife, street, studio. What sort of focal lengths do you want? How important is the highest quality to you as opposed to flexibility? Remembering that you have nice standard primes, do you need a high-quality standard zoom?
QuoteOriginally posted by Tomm Quote
Problem is that I don't know at what focal lengths I'm going to shoot yet. I've never owned a SLR myself.. At this moment I don't have plans to shoot animals or something like it. I think I won't need the 300mm, but I think I need more then 50mm.. I like the change in perspective of the background when zoomed in on a subject (background gets blown up/bigger). Furthermore I really love small DOF, so for that the Tamron is great.

For some reasons I don't like the 18-135 shots I've seen so far. Don't take me wrong, technically the shots are fine but they seem somewhat 2-dimensional.

As Alphanerd is suggesting I could better go for the package I could grow with at produces good quality images. I will probably pick up the DA18-55 and later on the 17-50 f2.8.

Thanks guys!
From my perspective, if you don't know what you want to do, I would start with the kit lens (18-55) since they are cheap (you can get a used DA 18-55 for $39.99 at henyr's outlet store locally in toronto, don't know prices in europe unfortunately) and you can add a longish lens, 50-200 or 60-250 or 55-300 just to give you the range to play. this will not set you back a ton, and until you figure out what you want to shoot, should suffice.
You can then either get better quality/ faster in within the range you are shooting, or extend that range (likely wider) as you discover your likes etc.

You can play on the used market, even, and look at lenses like an older 18-200 or 18-250 which I see regularly for about $70 at henrys (note henry's do sell on E-Bay as well, and their used E-Bay stock comes from trade-ins as well) you can preserve most of your budget for when you shoot a little more.
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I agree with Lowell. My path through the lens jungle so far: I started with the 18-55 wr and 50-200 wr to cover a good range with wr. Added the 55-300 for wildlife and a Sigma 10-20 for some wide fun. Then I started on primes.

For a while I thought I would get something like a 17-50 f/2.8, but after I got the 35 2.4 al I've hardly used my 18-55 at all. I've since added a 15 limited, and together with the 35 it covers most of my needs.

Should I start from scratch now, I think I would go for a 18-135 and 55-300 as a "cover it all" zoom set, and primes at e.g. 15, 21, 35, 70, and 100 macro. And probably a Sigma 8-16 (I love the 10-20, but the longer end is already covered, and 8mm sounds like even more fun than 10mm...).

Ask me again in 6 months and I'm sure I'll have a different list
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QuoteOriginally posted by Tomm Quote
Problem is that I don't know at what focal lengths I'm going to shoot yet. I've never owned a SLR myself.. At this moment I don't have plans to shoot animals or something like it. I think I won't need the 300mm, but I think I need more then 50mm.. I like the change in perspective of the background when zoomed in on a subject (background gets blown up/bigger). Furthermore I really love small DOF, so for that the Tamron is great.

For some reasons I don't like the 18-135 shots I've seen so far. Don't take me wrong, technically the shots are fine but they seem somewhat 2-dimensional.

As Alphanerd is suggesting I could better go for the package I could grow with at produces good quality images. I will probably pick up the DA18-55 and later on the 17-50 f2.8.

Thanks guys!
If you're really not sure, then the combo of the DA 18-55 and 55-300 will cover the full range of just about everything you will want to shoot. It's a good place to start and you will have the tool at hand to cover just about any photo oppurtunity at a very affordable price. You will very likely be adding to your lens collection anyhow. In a few months, you will have a much better idea of what you want to add to your lens collection.
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From your suggestions I'd definitely start with the Tamron 17-50/2.8 (superb lens) and save the rest of your budget for when you can afford the DA 55-300 (excellent lens and IQ if a touch slow. Not the DAL version). You have your low light lenses but the Tamron is so much better than your M28 you might want to sell that off and add the funds towards the 55-300.
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