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beholder3 · 07-20-2012, 12:41 PM - **2 Likes**

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lytrytyr · 07-20-2012, 01:23 PM

The different exposures (over- /under-) and atmospheric conditions may make it hard to draw any fine conclusions.

timo · 07-20-2012, 06:01 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by lytrytyr

The different exposures (over- /under-) and atmospheric conditions may make it hard to draw any fine conclusions.

Yes but ...

If different atmospheric conditions outweigh the differences between one lens and another, we are all spending too much money on expensive lenses.

lytrytyr · 07-20-2012, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by timo

If different atmospheric conditions outweigh the differences between one lens and another, we are all spending too much money on expensive lenses.

I'm not sure that follows,
even if the kit lens on a clear day
may do a better landscape
than a Limited lens on a hazy day.

beholder3 · 07-21-2012, 08:00 AM

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JonPB · 08-04-2012, 01:59 PM

I just wanted to say thanks to beholder3 for this. Even if you don't find the photos useful for comparing lenses, it is quite striking how the images change with light and atmosphere. Makes me think I should see what happens if I find a stable location to set up a tripod and take regular photos there.

Cheers,
Jon

beholder3 · 08-04-2012, 03:14 PM

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timo · 08-04-2012, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by beholder3

One major effect is the direction of the light. Sometimes it creates great contrasts in some areas, sometimes its just flat.

I personally have a few spots of the scene which I check when I want to compare them. With a little experience as photographer I think it is quite easy to not get confused by the atmospheric situations. It should also be what it is about: sharpness, nothing else.

If you go into the galleries for the individual lenses you can click through the aperture settings. It's no surprise, but you can see how a very lowly lens like the M200/4 really gets to be rather good at f/8, right to the edges (unlike the cheapo zoom alternatives).

It also seemed to me that the much vaunted superior sharpness wide open of the 50/1.7 vs the 1.4 isn't quite as cut and dried as people like to make out. (Even stopped down a bit my M50/1.4 is better than my 1.7 at the edges).

Also confirms my impression that the well-loved M28/3.5 has to be stopped down a lot to get really sharp corners. Like f/11. Otherwise it stands up very well to very much more expensive competition.

simbon4o · 08-05-2012, 09:36 AM

So is it only me who saw great blur on all wider apertures with all wide lenses fron the right side? Is that a K5 problem?

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lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	The different exposures (over- /under-) and atmospheric conditions may make it hard to draw any fine conclusions.

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timo Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: former Arsenal football stadium Photos: Gallery Posts: 431	Originally posted by lytrytyr The different exposures (over- /under-) and atmospheric conditions may make it hard to draw any fine conclusions. Yes but ... If different atmospheric conditions outweigh the differences between one lens and another, we are all spending too much money on expensive lenses.

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lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310	Originally posted by timo If different atmospheric conditions outweigh the differences between one lens and another, we are all spending too much money on expensive lenses. I'm not sure that follows, even if the kit lens on a clear day may do a better landscape than a Limited lens on a hazy day.

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08-04-2012, 01:59 PM	#6
JonPB Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portland, OR, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 430	I just wanted to say thanks to beholder3 for this. Even if you don't find the photos useful for comparing lenses, it is quite striking how the images change with light and atmosphere. Makes me think I should see what happens if I find a stable location to set up a tripod and take regular photos there. Cheers, Jon

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08-04-2012, 07:38 PM	#8
timo Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: former Arsenal football stadium Photos: Gallery Posts: 431	Originally posted by beholder3 One major effect is the direction of the light. Sometimes it creates great contrasts in some areas, sometimes its just flat. I personally have a few spots of the scene which I check when I want to compare them. With a little experience as photographer I think it is quite easy to not get confused by the atmospheric situations. It should also be what it is about: sharpness, nothing else. If you go into the galleries for the individual lenses you can click through the aperture settings. It's no surprise, but you can see how a very lowly lens like the M200/4 really gets to be rather good at f/8, right to the edges (unlike the cheapo zoom alternatives). It also seemed to me that the much vaunted superior sharpness wide open of the 50/1.7 vs the 1.4 isn't quite as cut and dried as people like to make out. (Even stopped down a bit my M50/1.4 is better than my 1.7 at the edges). Also confirms my impression that the well-loved M28/3.5 has to be stopped down a lot to get really sharp corners. Like f/11. Otherwise it stands up very well to very much more expensive competition.

08-05-2012, 09:36 AM	#9
simbon4o Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 258	So is it only me who saw great blur on all wider apertures with all wide lenses fron the right side? Is that a K5 problem?

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