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08-09-2012, 11:41 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by civiletti Quote
The OP needs a Phantasm 16-250/1.2. It'a a *great* lens.
nope the special edition leica wraith noctilux 16-300 f0.95 is a far better lens for the money

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nope the special edition leica wraith noctilux 16-300 f0.95 is a far better lens for the money
Except the Pentax K-mount version is further down in the roadmap.
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QuoteOriginally posted by crewl1 Quote
Except the Pentax K-mount version is further down in the roadmap.
yep but the excellent m42 can be adapted LOL
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Your original post is kind of like somebody saying, "I've got $100,000 to spend on a car, so I want something that will go 0-60 in 4 seconds flat, get at least 30mpg, seat six adults comfortably, and sometimes be able to pull my 30-foot yacht. What should I buy?"

Since it sounds like you're a little unsure of what exactly you want, I think you would be wise to go with two or three really good zooms for now. And then farther down the road you might figure out what kind of more specialized lenses you would like.

Here's a kit that would give you an ultrawide zoom for landscapes, tight interiors, exaggerated perspectives, and architecture, a standard zoom for walk-around, general photography, and portraits, and a fast telephoto for sports, nature, and portraits. And the standard and telephoto zooms also both allow close focusing for some light macro work.

$479: Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 EX DC
$474: Tamron 28-75mm SP AF28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di
$770: Tamron AF 70-200mm f2.8 Di LD IF Macro

That would be a total of $1723, but if you bought used you could probably shave $100 or more of each of those prices and come in under your $1500 figure.

Or if you don't want/need an ultrawide, you could instead go for something like this:

$619 Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM
$770: Tamron AF 70-200mm f2.8 Di LD IF Macro
$249 Pentax SMCP-DA 50mm f/1.8

That would be another very solid kit, for a total of $1638. And again, if you buy used, you could come in under $1500. You could also save a little money by substituting the DA 50mm for the for Pentax F 50mm 1.7 ($200) or even the manual focus version Pentax M 50mm 1.7 ($40).

The nice thing about buying used, is that you can usually resell the lenses for almost as much as you paid if you later change your mind.


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For a zoom, maybe the Da* 50-135/2.8. For a couple of single focal length lenses, the DA 35/2.8 LTD macro and D FA 100/2.8 WR.
Cannot agree more. Exactly what I would choose.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Edgar_in_Indy Quote
Your original post is kind of like somebody saying, "I've got $100,000 to spend on a car, so I want something that will go 0-60 in 4 seconds flat, get at least 30mpg, seat six adults comfortably, and sometimes be able to pull my 30-foot yacht. What should I buy?"

Since it sounds like you're a little unsure of what exactly you want, I think you would be wise to go with two or three really good zooms for now. And then farther down the road you might figure out what kind of more specialized lenses you would like.

Here's a kit that would give you an ultrawide zoom for landscapes, tight interiors, exaggerated perspectives, and architecture, a standard zoom for walk-around, general photography, and portraits, and a fast telephoto for sports, nature, and portraits. And the standard and telephoto zooms also both allow close focusing for some light macro work.

$479: Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 EX DC
$474: Tamron 28-75mm SP AF28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di
$770: Tamron AF 70-200mm f2.8 Di LD IF Macro

That would be a total of $1723, but if you bought used you could probably shave $100 or more of each of those prices and come in under your $1500 figure.

Or if you don't want/need an ultrawide, you could instead go for something like this:

$619 Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM
$770: Tamron AF 70-200mm f2.8 Di LD IF Macro
$249 Pentax SMCP-DA 50mm f/1.8

That would be another very solid kit, for a total of $1638. And again, if you buy used, you could come in under $1500. You could also save a little money by substituting the DA 50mm for the for Pentax F 50mm 1.7 ($200) or even the manual focus version Pentax M 50mm 1.7 ($40).

The nice thing about buying used, is that you can usually resell the lenses for almost as much as you paid if you later change your mind.
Excellent advice for most people either of those kits will really cover the bases well. then after shooting with them for a while they can anylyse what FL they shoot at and target prime lenses suited to the results.
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Maybe just start out with a bit more modest goal of finding something like, upgrading your 18-55?

Personally I'm pretty happy with my Tamron 17-50/2.8. Reasonably good if slightly plasticky build quality (think equivalent to plastic Pentax DA zooms with metal lens mounts), and pretty solid IQ throughout the zoom & aperture range. My copy did require a -5 AF adjustment on my K-r but once dialed in it's been great. You can get used copies for $350ish. Then you've got plenty of your $1500 left for other lenses, since you're going to need more than one lens to meet all your criteria.
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My needs are simple. All I want is a 6-1200mm f1.2 lens that's lightweight, tack sharp with no distortion at all focal lengths and apertures, the size of my 18-55 kit lens, and costs $100.

And a solid gold house.

And a unicorn that craps butter brickle ice cream.



And that's all I need.

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So thank you SO much to everyone who offered great advice. I decided on the Pentax 50-135 and the Tamron 28-75. Ordered both and now I have to play the waiting game to get the lenses!

Can't wait to try it out. Appreciate all the suggestions. I think I may still pick up a prime or two with what's leftover in my budget.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mishmatta Quote
I decided on the Pentax 50-135 and the Tamron 28-75.
Good choices!

P.S: I don't usually buy extended warranties. However, the Pentax SDM motor has given problems for some people. So I did purchase extended warranty for the 50-135 lens alone. It was cheap for a 7 year warranty. It is still only about 35 dollars for a 7 year warranty. I cannot guarantee the quality of the warranty as I have never had to use it- I have had my lens for over 2 years now.

Mack 7 Year Warranty for Lenses Valued $600 to $1000 1017
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I would go farther, and say that you would be crazy to buy the 50-135mm new and not buy an extended warranty.
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I purchased it used off the forum here, but it comes with a transferable 14 month square trade warranty left on it.
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The Tamron 28-75mm was a great choice, BTW. If I could only have one lens, that would be it.
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Do you think the Mack warranty is good to have WITH the square trade warranty that comes with my purchase, or is it overkill?
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Strictly in terms of unrealistic expectations, yours are right up there with losing weight by eating 6 cheeseburgers with fries every day. Sure, it might be possible to build a very sharp lens, f2.8 and covering the 24-200mm focal length range, but it would be as long as your arm and weigh about as much too. In general, superzooms are not super sharp and super fast. However, a good compromise general purpose lens is the DA*16-50/2.8, although I would not buy one without an extended warranty to cover the very real possibility of SDM failure.

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