DPReview now tests lenses

prof68 · 01-29-2008, 09:41 AM

Lens Reviews: Digital Photography Review

Pentax 18-55 f3.5-5.6 and 16-45 f4 are posted

cardinal43 · 01-29-2008, 10:05 AM

I only read the one for the 18-55, but it was quite complimentary. Sort of surprising for DPReview, IMHO.

fwbigd · 01-29-2008, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by cardinal43

I only read the one for the 18-55, but it was quite complimentary. Sort of surprising for DPReview, IMHO.

You should have read the Canon EF-S 17-85. It got the kiss of death on the recommendation " Recommended (with reservations)"

Nesster · 01-29-2008, 10:21 AM

I kind of like the interactive charts, and how you can compare side by side with another lens

The pentaxes came out better than the canons, overall.

Buddha Jones · 01-29-2008, 10:23 AM

Why are they waiting until NOW to test those two lenses? The 18-55mm is about to be replaced, and the 16-45mm has been out for some time now. Maybe they need to take the 'Review' out of their name and just be DP.com

Peter Zack · 01-29-2008, 10:26 AM

Nice to see though. maybe they are seeing Pentax as a serious contender, worthy of having a closer look. Now for some DA* reviews....

prof68 · 01-29-2008, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Nesster

I kind of like the interactive charts, and how you can compare side by side with another lens

The pentaxes came out better than the canons, overall.

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't see it since I didn't pay much attention to that interactive graphic (too complicated for me).

aegisphan · 01-29-2008, 11:11 AM

They do have the sophisticate look in their reviews. Since they just got into this business of reviewing lenses, just give them some time to acquire more samples and review more up to date glasses. However, I do hope they do pick lenses that haven't been reviewed by photozone (or do a review of the same lens on different system). Photozone data gear more toward the Canikon, thus comparing Pentax against some third-party lenses is hard to be conclusive. But i guess that's just wishful thinking.

Gooshin · 01-29-2008, 11:17 AM

if they were smart they would go into a partnership with photozone.de

but we all know the chances of an American clasping hands with a European.....

instead Phil is going to do double the work thats photozone has been doing for quite some time, brilliant.

AlexL · 01-29-2008, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

if they were smart they would go into a partnership with photozone.de

but we all know the chances of an American clasping hands with a European.....

instead Phil is going to do double the work thats photozone has been doing for quite some time, brilliant.

I disagree. I love and trust photozone.de for my lens reviews, and will continue to as long as Klaus keeps it up, but I want to have second opinions (and thirds, and fourths). I can't go by just one. Photozone.de seems pretty unmatched, and I would love to see other highly detailed reviews to see how different lens samples stack up. True, it'll probably take DPreview a while to build up a reputation with lens testing before I'm completely comfortable with them, but I want to see more independent reviews.

Alex

Gooshin · 01-29-2008, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by gerbilbox

I disagree. I love and trust photozone.de for my lens reviews, and will continue to as long as Klaus keeps it up, but I want to have second opinions (and thirds, and fourths). I can't go by just one. Photozone.de seems pretty unmatched, and I would love to see other highly detailed reviews to see how different lens samples stack up. True, it'll probably take DPreview a while to build up a reputation with lens testing before I'm completely comfortable with them, but I want to see more independent reviews.

Alex

thats why i suggested a merger

give Klaus more testers or whatever, or integrate the systems. to create one big one.

the problem with judging lens quality is that its really vague to differentiate esp when you go to the very good lenses.

if Phil is going to develop his own system for testing lenses, how could you possibly compare it to Klaus?

I see nothing but a big mess in the future where people will side with one or the other, and endless debates will ensue. Because unlike our own little lens database here at pentaxforums, Phil and Klaus will try to support their findings with fancy little numbers and charts, confusing the hell out of everyone

Tbear · 01-29-2008, 02:01 PM

The more lens test review sites, the better for the photography consumer. Can't get too much of a good thing. Kudos to DPR for finally reviewing lenses as well.

Rickster · 01-29-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

if they were smart they would go into a partnership with photozone.de

but we all know the chances of an American clasping hands with a European.....

instead Phil is going to do double the work thats photozone has been doing for quite some time, brilliant.

Who is the American?

Gooshin · 01-29-2008, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Tbear

The more lens test review sites, the better for the photography consumer. Can't get too much of a good thing. Kudos to DPR for finally reviewing lenses as well.

Joe A tests his pentax lenses on a *isD, in a poorly constructed studio, and his outside shots are taken from Mt.Kilimanjaro

Joe B tests his pentax lenses on a K10D, using a low quality monitor, in a very well constructed studio and proper lighting, but hes at sea level for outside shots.

Joe C tests his pentax lenses on a K20D, using the best hardware you can buy, in a half decent studio, and lets say 500meters above sea level for outside shots

lets say Joe A gives the lens a 9/10, Joe B gives the lens a 10/10 and Joe C gives the lens a 6/10

what do you have?

you have nothing, you are sitting scartching your head, and you will still come back to this forum and ask for opinions from people that use that particular lens every single day.

Gooshin · 01-29-2008, 02:22 PM

I APOLOGIZE

i made a small error, Dpreview is just as european as photozone.de

DPReview.com Limited
Patriot Court, 1-9 The Grove
Slough, Berkshire, SL1 1QP
United Kingdom

Phone: +44 20 77647930
webmaster [at] dpreview.com

as you were....

01-29-2008, 09:41 AM	#1
prof68 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 55	DPReview now tests lenses Lens Reviews: Digital Photography Review Pentax 18-55 f3.5-5.6 and 16-45 f4 are posted

01-29-2008, 02:01 PM	#12
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	The more the merrier The more lens test review sites, the better for the photography consumer. Can't get too much of a good thing. Kudos to DPR for finally reviewing lenses as well.

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01-29-2008, 10:05 AM	#2
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	I only read the one for the 18-55, but it was quite complimentary. Sort of surprising for DPReview, IMHO.

01-29-2008, 10:16 AM	#3
fwbigd Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 339	Originally posted by cardinal43 I only read the one for the 18-55, but it was quite complimentary. Sort of surprising for DPReview, IMHO. You should have read the Canon EF-S 17-85. It got the kiss of death on the recommendation " Recommended (with reservations)"

01-29-2008, 10:21 AM	#4
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	I kind of like the interactive charts, and how you can compare side by side with another lens The pentaxes came out better than the canons, overall.

01-29-2008, 10:23 AM	#5
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	Why are they waiting until NOW to test those two lenses? The 18-55mm is about to be replaced, and the 16-45mm has been out for some time now. Maybe they need to take the 'Review' out of their name and just be DP.com

01-29-2008, 10:26 AM	#6
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	Nice to see though. maybe they are seeing Pentax as a serious contender, worthy of having a closer look. Now for some DA* reviews....

01-29-2008, 10:32 AM	#7
prof68 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 55 Original Poster	Originally posted by Nesster I kind of like the interactive charts, and how you can compare side by side with another lens The pentaxes came out better than the canons, overall. Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't see it since I didn't pay much attention to that interactive graphic (too complicated for me).

01-29-2008, 11:11 AM	#8
aegisphan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Mexico Posts: 815	They do have the sophisticate look in their reviews. Since they just got into this business of reviewing lenses, just give them some time to acquire more samples and review more up to date glasses. However, I do hope they do pick lenses that haven't been reviewed by photozone (or do a review of the same lens on different system). Photozone data gear more toward the Canikon, thus comparing Pentax against some third-party lenses is hard to be conclusive. But i guess that's just wishful thinking.

01-29-2008, 11:17 AM	#9
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	if they were smart they would go into a partnership with photozone.de but we all know the chances of an American clasping hands with a European..... instead Phil is going to do double the work thats photozone has been doing for quite some time, brilliant.

01-29-2008, 12:31 PM	#10
AlexL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 137	Originally posted by Gooshin if they were smart they would go into a partnership with photozone.de but we all know the chances of an American clasping hands with a European..... instead Phil is going to do double the work thats photozone has been doing for quite some time, brilliant. I disagree. I love and trust photozone.de for my lens reviews, and will continue to as long as Klaus keeps it up, but I want to have second opinions (and thirds, and fourths). I can't go by just one. Photozone.de seems pretty unmatched, and I would love to see other highly detailed reviews to see how different lens samples stack up. True, it'll probably take DPreview a while to build up a reputation with lens testing before I'm completely comfortable with them, but I want to see more independent reviews. Alex

01-29-2008, 01:02 PM	#11
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by gerbilbox I disagree. I love and trust photozone.de for my lens reviews, and will continue to as long as Klaus keeps it up, but I want to have second opinions (and thirds, and fourths). I can't go by just one. Photozone.de seems pretty unmatched, and I would love to see other highly detailed reviews to see how different lens samples stack up. True, it'll probably take DPreview a while to build up a reputation with lens testing before I'm completely comfortable with them, but I want to see more independent reviews. Alex thats why i suggested a merger give Klaus more testers or whatever, or integrate the systems. to create one big one. the problem with judging lens quality is that its really vague to differentiate esp when you go to the very good lenses. if Phil is going to develop his own system for testing lenses, how could you possibly compare it to Klaus? I see nothing but a big mess in the future where people will side with one or the other, and endless debates will ensue. Because unlike our own little lens database here at pentaxforums, Phil and Klaus will try to support their findings with fancy little numbers and charts, confusing the hell out of everyone

01-29-2008, 02:15 PM	#13
Rickster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE Idaho - Rocky Mtns Photos: Gallery Posts: 580	Originally posted by Gooshin if they were smart they would go into a partnership with photozone.de but we all know the chances of an American clasping hands with a European..... instead Phil is going to do double the work thats photozone has been doing for quite some time, brilliant. Who is the American?

01-29-2008, 02:16 PM	#14
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by Tbear The more lens test review sites, the better for the photography consumer. Can't get too much of a good thing. Kudos to DPR for finally reviewing lenses as well. Joe A tests his pentax lenses on a *isD, in a poorly constructed studio, and his outside shots are taken from Mt.Kilimanjaro Joe B tests his pentax lenses on a K10D, using a low quality monitor, in a very well constructed studio and proper lighting, but hes at sea level for outside shots. Joe C tests his pentax lenses on a K20D, using the best hardware you can buy, in a half decent studio, and lets say 500meters above sea level for outside shots lets say Joe A gives the lens a 9/10, Joe B gives the lens a 10/10 and Joe C gives the lens a 6/10 what do you have? you have nothing, you are sitting scartching your head, and you will still come back to this forum and ask for opinions from people that use that particular lens every single day.

01-29-2008, 02:22 PM	#15
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	I APOLOGIZE i made a small error, Dpreview is just as european as photozone.de DPReview.com Limited Patriot Court, 1-9 The Grove Slough, Berkshire, SL1 1QP United Kingdom Phone: +44 20 77647930 webmaster [at] dpreview.com as you were....