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08-30-2012, 06:31 PM   #1
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Lens Kit....thoughts

Looking for some guidance from the those with more experience than me (pretty much everyone )). Wondering if my current lens lineup makes sense:

DA15 Ltd.
DA40 Ltd.
FA31 Ltd.
FA77 Ltd
18-55 WR (Kit Lens)


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08-30-2012, 06:54 PM   #2
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The simplest is possilby to start with the kit lens 18-55mm, unless you know exactly what you want.

The 18-55mm is the cheapest and as a zoom does allow you to test a range of focal length. This may guide you if you need more reach.

After you may consider what you want or prefer: zoom or prime lenses. Zoom are more convenient, but they are bulkier and more expensive, for a similar IQ, than prime lenses. Primes have usually a better IQ than a zoom lens for the same price, but they are primes (single focal length). More you usually get what you pay for: outstanding primes like the FA Ltd can be expensive.

At the end, you may end up with a combination of zoom and primes. I love prime lenses for the IQ and when I want the best shots (eg portrait), but I need some convenience for some applications (eg when I travel). As an example, I started with the DA18-250mm, and then got several primes: VL58mm, FA31mm, Tamron 90mm .... The DA18-250mm is oustanding for convenience, when I travel overseas. The VL58mm and FA31mm have both outstanding IQ, and they are my prefered primes.

From your line up, my main question would be: do you need a longer focal length? Zoom or prime?

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QuoteOriginally posted by CMG Quote
Looking for some guidance from the those with more experience than me (pretty much everyone )). Wondering if my current lens lineup makes sense:

DA15 Ltd.
DA40 Ltd.
FA31 Ltd.
FA77 Ltd
18-55 WR (Kit Lens)
Thanks!
My main kit is not too far off this:
DA 10-17 fisheye
DA 15
DA 40
D FA 100 macro
A*300mm f4
DA 18-135

I also have an FA 35 2.0 and FA 50mm 1.4. I substitute the FA 35 for the 40mm if I'll be shooting in low light. I pretty much use the FA 50 for portraits, which I don't do often. I have a 16-45 and DA 55-300 that I use periodically.

IMO, your kit makes sense. It's too short for me, and no macro, but if it suits your needs, then you're all set.
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I have the 18-55 WR lens and if compared to my 21mm Ltd at the same f stop you would have a hard time to see the difference even at 100 % mag.
Great lens.

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Yes, it makes sense I think.

You might want a longer lens - anything from DFA100WR to DA*200 (or 300).

You might want an FA43 or DA*55. DA43 can be instead of the DA40 - almost as small, faster, and better IQ in most people's opinion. DA*55 could replace DA40 too - it's really fast and has high IQ, although not as small as DA40 or FA43. Because you have the FA31 and FA77, either the FA43 or DA*55 could fill the gap by being somewhere in the middle.


As you probably know, the DA40 is not quite up to the standard of your other primes, although it's still good.

But you may find you just need a zoom sometimes. Consider the Tamron 17-50/2.8, DA*16-50/2.8, and DA*50-135/2.8.
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QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
My main kit is not too far off this:
DA 10-17 fisheye
DA 15
DA 40
D FA 100 macro
A*300mm f4
DA 18-135
IMO, your kit makes sense. It's too short for me, and no macro, but if it suits your needs, then you're all set.
Thanks! I'm in the early stages of being a Pentaxian.
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My go bag has this in it:
DA 21mm
DA 40mm
DA 70mm
D FA 100mm macro
DA*16-50
DA L 55-300

Not too far off from yours except that I have substituted the DA*16-50 for the kit lens and added the DA L 55-300 for distance.

If you want a critique the obvious problem is that even though it is a nice lens the 18-55 is just not in the same league as your other gear. If I was going to make a change that is where I would start. Maybe swap it for the DA*16-50 or the Sigma or Tamron equivalents. Unless you just shoot primes and carry the kit lens as backup. In which case I would be looking at adding something in the 100 - 135mm length. Either DFA 100mm or maybe the F 135mm
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QuoteOriginally posted by bobpur Quote
I have the 18-55 WR lens and if compared to my 21mm Ltd at the same f stop you would have a hard time to see the difference even at 100 % mag.
Great lens.
Yes, the kit lens is that good in the 20-40mm range...

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QuoteOriginally posted by CMG Quote
Wondering if my current lens lineup makes sense
You're the best judge of that.

Do you use all your lenses?

Do you miss photos because you don't have the right lens for the job?
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QuoteOriginally posted by jatrax Quote
Maybe swap it for the DA*16-50 or the Sigma or Tamron equivalents.
He would lose WR capability if he went with a Sigma or Tamron . A weatherproof zoom is a must-have in my bag. Besides, none of these zooms are as sharp as a high quality prime at f2.8. If he needs higher quality than the kit zoom, he already has it covered.
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QuoteOriginally posted by CMG Quote
DA15 Ltd. - slow
FA31 Ltd. - fast
DA40 Ltd. - slow
FA77 Ltd - fast
18-55 WR (Kit Lens)
I think it's a really good start and similar but different than what I have. Sometimes I think people focus to much on not having overlap on focal lengths and ignore other functionality. I understand the desire to have all fast lenses and replace the DA40 with the FA43 or DA*55 but you (the OP) have fast lenses at 31 and 77mm's. I think it works to have a slower but tiny lens in between those two if you do that is important (avid hiker for example).

I also have and agree that the WR kit lens is a very nice lens to have available if you mostly have non-WR primes.

My kit (the used lenses)
DA15 - slow
K24/M28 - slow
DA40 - slow
A50f1.7 - fast
DFA100WR - fastish
M135f3.5 - fastish

what you don't have is a longer lens or a macro/close focus lens. The DFA 100 could fill the macro req't or the DA*200 (tamron 70-200) is a really nice long lens. Alternatively you could look at some nice zooms for convenience.

My random wishlist - it's pretty obvious that I'm not buying all of this (likely not any of this) soon - I think the long prime is at the top of my list.
wide zoom (Tamron 10-24) - for the wider end and zoom convenience
normal zoom (T28-75) - nice general walkaround
fast tele zoom (T70-200)
DA*200 and/or DA*300 - wildlife and concerts
M20f4/DA21 - I take a lot of photos between 15 and 40mm's
DA*55 - extend my WR set and upgrade from the A50
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Do you ever wish you could reach out further with your photography? To me, looking at your kit with 77mm as your longest lens, the thing that jumps out is that you do not have a real telephoto lens. Are there times that something longer than the 77 would be of use to you? If not, that kit looks good, although either a 10-20/24 or a Fisheye 10-17 might compliment it on the shorter end.
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As others have said, it depends a lot on what you want to shoot. That said, if I were you:

I'd keep 15, 31, 77. I'd sell Da 40 as it's too close in FL to 31. I'd substitute with one of the fast 50's (there are tons to choose from) if you feel like you need something in between the 31 and 77, otherwise if you feel like it's more of a priority to add something on the long end, look at a 135mm prime (F135/2.8 is great, there are others) or a zoom (maybe an older Viv 70-210 if you don't mind manual). I'd personally sell the kit lens as I'm a prime and don't mind switching lenses, but I can see argument for keeping it for convenience's sake.

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I'd also sell the 40mm and go for either a fast-fifty (as above) or a 100mm macro lens.... Gives you Macro & Reach

OR

DA50-200mmWR to complete your WR-kit and really increase reach...
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