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09-08-2012, 10:33 PM   #1
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21 Ltd vs 35 DA Las one kit

Which lens would you suggest for a one prime lens set up and a possible pair for the 70 when travelling and street shooting? Or should I consider the 3?

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09-08-2012, 11:06 PM   #2
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I guess it all depends on how wide you like things to be. I have both of those but the 21mm get way more use than the 35mm. So if you like things wide and don't mind cropping when you don't want them so wide go for the the 21mm. But if you want a lens that has a faster aperture, alot cheaper and more of a "normal" focal length then go for the 35mm.

Both of those are great choices and I do not think that you would regret either of them
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The DA35/2.4 is affordable enough that you could probably consider all 3.

But I think Focal Length is the main issue you're raising here. There are different styles of street shooting, so there's no one answer. But it's worth noting that most of the fixed-focal length cameras being released today have a 35mm equivalent FL of around 35mm. For example, the APS-C Fuji X100 matches this description exactly, with its 23mm lens, and the APS-C Sigma models (DP1 Merrill and DP2 Merrill) are near this with 19mm and 30mm lenses, respectively.


So it sounds like they'd both fit, though the DA21 might be an especially interesting option here. FWIW, I have an FA20 and FA28, which could both work here. But despite this, I just purchased an FA*24 because I miss having that focal length. As an f/2 FF lens it may be a bit large for street shooting, but it will be nice to have the FL back - this time with both AF and speed (unlike the otherwise nice A24/2.8 I had).


You may also like this lens: Sigma 24mm f/2.8 AF Super Wide II Lens Reviews - Sigma Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

I've had both an MF and AF version. Many people like it, but I found the IQ lacking, especially wider than f/4 (although admittedly, this problem was compounded by the fact that it tends to overexpose by a stop or more). And the AF may not be as fast and accurate as you desire. But if they're still going for around $200 it might be worth considering.

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I find 28mm the ideal all-purpose walkaround focal length. Therefore I use my M28/3.5 quite a lot. In the absence of a currently available AF 28mm Pentax lens, I would go for the DA21mm. I have the cheapo DA35. It works very well, but I find the FOV just a tad narrow. Just a matter of personal taste. There's no 'right' or 'wrong' answer.

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I would go the 21, you can usually take a step or two closer but not a step or two back
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The FL is very subjective (it is KING!), thanks a bunch!

I just wish that the 20-40 Limited on the road map would pop up now.
But I already have both on my kit lens
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I am finding the DA15, DA35Ltd and DA70 cover a nice useful range to carry, and follows old double mm rule. I augment gaps with good cheap manuals if needed.
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Da 21 is a fun street lens if you like to get close and it works as a good travel lens in cities.
I do use a FA 35 regularly also, depends what mood I'm in.

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You have to remember the difference. On APS-c , a 35 mm lens is a standard lens. The 21 is a wide angle.

35 mm images
The 35 is better indoors in low light conditions...





21 mm images

The 21 is a better in open space in landscape or in tight architectural situations where a 35 often isn't wide enough.









If you don't have anything in the 35 mm range then, there's a reason it's "standard". it's the best compromise all purpose lens. On the other hand you get shots with the 21 you can't take with a 35. And if you get the 21 you can just crop. But it's F3.2 instead of F2.4.

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QuoteOriginally posted by crewl1 Quote
Da 21 is a fun street lens if you like to get close and it works as a good travel lens in cities.
I do use a FA 35 regularly also, depends what mood I'm in.
That how I feel about hose 2 FLs Thanks
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QuoteOriginally posted by Schmidlapper Quote
I am finding the DA15, DA35Ltd and DA70 cover a nice useful range to carry, and follows old double mm rule. I augment gaps with good cheap manuals if needed.
I have tried the 15, but it doesn't suit my preference. It doesn't control my mind.
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@normhead,
Thank you for the heads up!

The FA 20-35 doesn't come by these days.
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The DA21, 40 & 70 Ltds are another popular trio. As pancake lenses, these three take up less space and still gives a nice range at a reasonable price. I consider that grouping also when deciding on my line up. Had I not already owned a K24/2.8 Vivitar 28/2.8 and several good 50s I may have made it as a choice. The 15 is a good lens for me and on crop c sensor falls in close to a 21 FF equivalent. The right duo that can become a good trio later.
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QuoteOriginally posted by wed7 Quote
The FA 20-35 doesn't come by these days.
It may morph into the DA Limited zoom promised on the road map.
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
It may morph into the DA Limited zoom promised on the road map.

Hence I must wait. -Back to my trusty kit lens

Thank you.
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