Tamron Releases New 70-200 but not for Pentax

bossa · 09-13-2012, 06:21 AM

Two new Tamron lenses: 70-200mm f/2.8 VC USD and 90mm f/2.8 Macro VC USD | Photo Rumors

As per usual there's a new Tamron lens out and it's not being released for Pentax.

The Macro is a new design and both lenses are moisture and dust resistant.

A very interesting Photokina this year to be sure.

JeremytheIndian · 09-13-2012, 06:26 AM

I wonder if it's going to change the optic make up... If all they are adding is USD (ultra silent drive - which could be prone to problems vs screwdrive) and VC (vibration control - which we don't need) I don't know if it matters. Looks nice though and I will probably want one

liukaitc · 09-13-2012, 06:39 AM

it is not marked as macro anymore. now the min focus distance is 1.3m. the old one is 0.9m

bossa · 09-13-2012, 06:41 AM

The macro is a completely new design apparently. I guess the old one is worthless now on the resale market too.

Vantage-Point · 09-13-2012, 06:45 AM

If Pentax releases a FF Dslr, ( which they probably will eventually since Sony and Nikon have already announced their 24 MP FF Dslrs) Pentax will probably sell a licensed from Tamron 70-200 mm and their (Tamron) 24-70mm f/2.8, both with SDM as well.

TZH · 09-13-2012, 07:03 AM

Tamron no longer for pk ..

JeremytheIndian · 09-13-2012, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by bossa

The macro is a completely new design apparently. I guess the old one is worthless now on the resale market too.

Why would the old Tammy 70-200 2.8 be worthless now? People love that lens.

JinDesu · 09-13-2012, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by JeremytheIndian

Why would the old Tammy 70-200 2.8 be worthless now? People love that lens.

I think he's referring to the 90 macro, but your statement still stands for that too...

Originally posted by liukaitc

it is not marked as macro anymore. now the min focus distance is 1.3m. the old one is 0.9m

Yep - Just noticed that too. My Tammy 70-200 is 1:3 magnification, while this one is 1:8 - pretty big difference... maybe it helps with the long end distant subject resolution. By my 70-200's performance on distant subjects is really good, and midrange subjects is prime-quality. So I don't know... 1:3 magnification is pretty useful on my Tammy too.. My Sigma 50 has 1:8 magnification and it really sucks for trying to shoot pictures of bees when i tried to.

I don't care about VC - if it had silent fast motor like the Sigmas, I'd be more jealous. But this update seems sooooorta crappy if I may say so..

New lens weight: 1470g
Old lens weight: 1150g

New lens length and width is slightly less than old lens

New lens: 23 elements 18 groups
Old lens: 18 elemens 13 groups

Number of aperture blades is the same - both are rounded

New lens: Moisture and dust resistant (maybe this is a big deal)
Old lens: Vacuum cleaner

I hope it doesn't cost significantly more than the old 70-200, because then it'd be sorta cost ineffective - unless it somehow outperforms the old one by a huge margin, and I highly doubt that.

guinnessman · 09-13-2012, 07:43 AM

Eh, at least I got a copy of the older 70-200, although not nuts about it's AF in anything but bright light (then again I like shooting baseball, and I use a K20, so I might just be nuts).

The dust sealing would be nice though, although the added weight doesn't sound appealing.

joe.penn · 09-13-2012, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by bossa

The Macro is a new design and both lenses are moisture and dust resistant.

They are trying to catch up to Sigma - it does suck though that none of the WR lenses from both third party manufacturers are in Pentax mount...

Catalana · 09-13-2012, 08:30 AM

I have the older version of the Tamron 70-200mm. It is a good copy and my favorite lens. But compared to it's Canikon
siblings, it was getting long in the tooth. The Nikon 70-200mm is a freak in terms of sharpness, but with the added elements
in the new lens design and VC, it will probably get fairly close. The biggest gripe was it's auto focus speed, low light focusing ability
and sample variation. Who knows, there is a good chance that a K-mount version will still materialize, as is often the case.

For me the news is great. If I cannot come right with Pentax in a few months and decide to add another system, then this lens is just what the doctor ordered.
Nice to have an alternative.

**crewl1** · 09-13-2012, 08:39 AM

Perhaps there is no Pentax mount because Ricoh has made an agreement with Tamron to rebadge some lenses and sell them as Pentax lenses, like with the 18-270?

Keep an eye on the Pentax lens roadmap and see if it changes soon.

Maybe Ricoh has plans to focus on camera development and leave the lens design to Tamron? Maybe I just started a new rumour?

JinDesu · 09-13-2012, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by crewl1

Perhaps there is no Pentax mount because Ricoh has made an agreement with Tamron to rebadge some lenses and sell them as Pentax lenses, like with the 18-270?

Keep an eye on the Pentax lens roadmap and see if it changes soon.

Maybe Ricoh has plans to focus on camera development and leave the lens design to Tamron? Maybe I just started a new rumour?

I'm going to misuse your quote everywhere and help that rumour propagate~

**crewl1** · 09-13-2012, 09:08 AM

Here's an additional scenario: Tamron will subsequently announce a 28-75 2.8 PZD VC lens , in CaNikonSony mount only.

Then: Pentax will announce a new Full Frame flagship camera, along with 2 new lenses for full frame, the 70-200 SDM and the 28-75 SDM - plausible? Rumours, rumours, rumours,...

**crewl1** · 09-13-2012, 09:15 AM

Oh wait one more thing - Tamron will announce a new Weather Sealed 1.4x TC as well. That's on Pentax's roadmap, right?

09-13-2012, 06:21 AM	#1
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	Tamron Releases New 70-200 but not for Pentax Two new Tamron lenses: 70-200mm f/2.8 VC USD and 90mm f/2.8 Macro VC USD \| Photo Rumors As per usual there's a new Tamron lens out and it's not being released for Pentax. The Macro is a new design and both lenses are moisture and dust resistant. A very interesting Photokina this year to be sure.

09-13-2012, 07:03 AM	#6
TZH Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kuala Lumpur Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 118	Tamron no longer for pk .. Last edited by TZH; 09-13-2012 at 07:09 AM.

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09-13-2012, 06:26 AM	#2
JeremytheIndian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 121	I wonder if it's going to change the optic make up... If all they are adding is USD (ultra silent drive - which could be prone to problems vs screwdrive) and VC (vibration control - which we don't need) I don't know if it matters. Looks nice though and I will probably want one

09-13-2012, 06:39 AM	#3
liukaitc Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 1,008	it is not marked as macro anymore. now the min focus distance is 1.3m. the old one is 0.9m

09-13-2012, 06:41 AM	#4
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546 Original Poster	The macro is a completely new design apparently. I guess the old one is worthless now on the resale market too.

09-13-2012, 06:45 AM	#5
Vantage-Point Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New York Posts: 516	If Pentax releases a FF Dslr, ( which they probably will eventually since Sony and Nikon have already announced their 24 MP FF Dslrs) Pentax will probably sell a licensed from Tamron 70-200 mm and their (Tamron) 24-70mm f/2.8, both with SDM as well.

09-13-2012, 07:09 AM	#7
JeremytheIndian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 121	Originally posted by bossa The macro is a completely new design apparently. I guess the old one is worthless now on the resale market too. Why would the old Tammy 70-200 2.8 be worthless now? People love that lens.

09-13-2012, 07:21 AM	#8
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by JeremytheIndian Why would the old Tammy 70-200 2.8 be worthless now? People love that lens. I think he's referring to the 90 macro, but your statement still stands for that too... Originally posted by liukaitc it is not marked as macro anymore. now the min focus distance is 1.3m. the old one is 0.9m Yep - Just noticed that too. My Tammy 70-200 is 1:3 magnification, while this one is 1:8 - pretty big difference... maybe it helps with the long end distant subject resolution. By my 70-200's performance on distant subjects is really good, and midrange subjects is prime-quality. So I don't know... 1:3 magnification is pretty useful on my Tammy too.. My Sigma 50 has 1:8 magnification and it really sucks for trying to shoot pictures of bees when i tried to. I don't care about VC - if it had silent fast motor like the Sigmas, I'd be more jealous. But this update seems sooooorta crappy if I may say so.. New lens weight: 1470g Old lens weight: 1150g New lens length and width is slightly less than old lens New lens: 23 elements 18 groups Old lens: 18 elemens 13 groups Number of aperture blades is the same - both are rounded New lens: Moisture and dust resistant (maybe this is a big deal) Old lens: Vacuum cleaner I hope it doesn't cost significantly more than the old 70-200, because then it'd be sorta cost ineffective - unless it somehow outperforms the old one by a huge margin, and I highly doubt that.

09-13-2012, 07:43 AM	#9
guinnessman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 175	Eh, at least I got a copy of the older 70-200, although not nuts about it's AF in anything but bright light (then again I like shooting baseball, and I use a K20, so I might just be nuts). The dust sealing would be nice though, although the added weight doesn't sound appealing.

09-13-2012, 07:49 AM	#10
joe.penn Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland (Right Outside Washington DC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,902	Originally posted by bossa The Macro is a new design and both lenses are moisture and dust resistant. They are trying to catch up to Sigma - it does suck though that none of the WR lenses from both third party manufacturers are in Pentax mount...

09-13-2012, 08:30 AM	#11
Catalana Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 190	I have the older version of the Tamron 70-200mm. It is a good copy and my favorite lens. But compared to it's Canikon siblings, it was getting long in the tooth. The Nikon 70-200mm is a freak in terms of sharpness, but with the added elements in the new lens design and VC, it will probably get fairly close. The biggest gripe was it's auto focus speed, low light focusing ability and sample variation. Who knows, there is a good chance that a K-mount version will still materialize, as is often the case. For me the news is great. If I cannot come right with Pentax in a few months and decide to add another system, then this lens is just what the doctor ordered. Nice to have an alternative.

09-13-2012, 08:39 AM	#12
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Perhaps there is no Pentax mount because Ricoh has made an agreement with Tamron to rebadge some lenses and sell them as Pentax lenses, like with the 18-270? Keep an eye on the Pentax lens roadmap and see if it changes soon. Maybe Ricoh has plans to focus on camera development and leave the lens design to Tamron? Maybe I just started a new rumour?

09-13-2012, 08:43 AM	#13
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by crewl1 Perhaps there is no Pentax mount because Ricoh has made an agreement with Tamron to rebadge some lenses and sell them as Pentax lenses, like with the 18-270? Keep an eye on the Pentax lens roadmap and see if it changes soon. Maybe Ricoh has plans to focus on camera development and leave the lens design to Tamron? Maybe I just started a new rumour? I'm going to misuse your quote everywhere and help that rumour propagate~

09-13-2012, 09:08 AM	#14
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Here's an additional scenario: Tamron will subsequently announce a 28-75 2.8 PZD VC lens , in CaNikonSony mount only. Then: Pentax will announce a new Full Frame flagship camera, along with 2 new lenses for full frame, the 70-200 SDM and the 28-75 SDM - plausible? Rumours, rumours, rumours,...

09-13-2012, 09:15 AM	#15
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Oh wait one more thing - Tamron will announce a new Weather Sealed 1.4x TC as well. That's on Pentax's roadmap, right?