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09-18-2012, 10:41 AM   #31
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hi Lowell, ive heard and read a lot of times about the 8element takumar... whats really about it? do you have any sample pictures/gallery/albums?
i guess i will have to drop smc tak 50 as well... good for me, narrowing down my choices...

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I am a big fan of the Volna-9, too.
It is the only lens I know which has a Gaussian Bokeh in the background.

If you look at the circles of confusion, all lenses I own behave like the left one (Gaussian Bokeh in the foreground), except for the Volna:



Example (top right foreground, bottom left background):


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A nice example:
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QuoteOriginally posted by blende8 Quote
I am a big fan of the Volna-9, too.
It is the only lens I know which has a Gaussian Bokeh in the background.
Is that a Tessar thing or an exclusively Volna-9 thing? (Volna is a Tessar-based design.) I've been meaning to get a 50/2.8 in a Tessar design -- never tried one.
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It's an exclusively Volna-9 thing, AFAIK.
I have not found any other lens so far showing this behaviour.
There probably are others, old ones, but I don't know them.

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QuoteOriginally posted by blende8 Quote
It's an exclusively Volna-9 thing, AFAIK.
I have not found any other lens so far showing this behaviour.
There probably are others, old ones, but I don't know them.
Well, I hear talk of the "Tessar look" but I don't know what it is...
09-18-2012, 04:57 PM   #36
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QuoteOriginally posted by HoBykoYan Quote

Volna 9 50 2.8 (macro) (dropped, prefer f2 and faster, can always use tubes)
Forget about maximum aperture or macro aspects - you get the Volna 9 because it produces distinctive images, as blende8 also pointed out.



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thanks blende8 & laurentiu for pointing his out. really love that bokeh. i guess i need to bring back the volna into contention.
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anybody can vouch for the helios 77m-4? how about 44-6 n 44-7? currently looking for the 8element super tak, hope to find 1 here.

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QuoteOriginally posted by HoBykoYan Quote
anybody can vouch for the helios 77m-4? how about 44-6 n 44-7?
I have never tried the lenses you list, but the favourite appears to be the 44-2, because of its rendering qualities, though the 44-6 and 7 are also popular because they are aren't as old and have some improvements (but their rendering is more tame, less crazy, and they have fewer aperture blades, I think)
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currently dealing with helios 44-2 now, hope it will push through. hope it will not disappoint.
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I don't find the 8-element Super Tak superior to the SMC 7-element ones, although it may be compared to the 7-element non-SMCs. I think it is mainly a cult/fetish thing that gives it its value. I've got one around here -- maybe I'll give it another look.
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QuoteOriginally posted by vonBaloney Quote
I don't find the 8-element Super Tak superior to the SMC 7-element ones, although it may be compared to the 7-element non-SMCs. I think it is mainly a cult/fetish thing that gives it its value. I've got one around here -- maybe I'll give it another look.
There is a very subtle difference that I noticed between the 8 element and the 7 element Super Taks. Maybe it was in my mind, but the earlier version seemed to have more of a painterly bokeh.
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QuoteOriginally posted by HoBykoYan Quote
if you have the opportunity to buy 1 or 2 of the m42 lenses listed below, which one would you choose and why?
smc tak 50 1.4 Good lens, I use mine a lot.
s-m-c tak 50 1.4
smc tak 55 1.8
fujinon 55 1.8 Supposed to be very good, it has a good reputation, but I get mixed results from mine. When it's good - it's great.
yashinon 50 1.7 dsm
yashica 50 2
yashica 50 1.4 dx
auto chinon 55 1.7 Great lens, there's a tendency to flare if you point it at the sun. But it's sharp, I really like mine.
smc m50 1.7
thanks in advance
I don't think you would go far wrong with any of those lenses, the three I have are lenses I'll keep. Even the Fujinon, there's a sweet spot in the lens somewhere but I can't remember where it is !
And I would always recommend a Helios to anyone who wants a great MF lens, either the 44-2 or the 44M, I have both and in that range they are my firm favorite lenses.
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hi Lowell, ive heard and read a lot of times about the 8element takumar... whats really about it? do you have any sample pictures/gallery/albums?
i guess i will have to drop smc tak 50 as well... good for me, narrowing down my choices...
There are lots of sample shots out there for the lens. It is sharper than the 7 element but in some conditions prone to flare and reflections especially with night shots. Also lower contrast, although a hood really helps. I use one from a 105/2.8.
The 8 element was the sharpest 50 at the time it was made
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just got myself a helios 44-2 in good (pristine) condition, need to try lens first... 1 lens for Sept...done. (thanks to all who recommended the 44-2)
pls continue to recommend good m42 lenses as i would like to get 1/mo. thanks
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